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From: Michael Armbrust [mailto:mich...@databricks.com]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:13 PM
To: Philip Weaver <philip.wea...@gmail.com>
Cc: Jerrick Hoang <jerrickho...@gmail.com>; Raghavendra Pandey 
<raghavendra.pan...@gmail.com>; User <user@spark.apache.org>; Cheng, Hao 
<hao.ch...@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Spark Sql behaves strangely with tables with a lot of partitions

I think we are mostly bottlenecked at this point by how fast we can make 
listStatus calls to discover the folders.  That said, we are happy to accept 
suggestions or PRs to make this faster.  Perhaps you can describe how your home 
grown partitioning works?

On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Philip Weaver 
<philip.wea...@gmail.com<mailto:philip.wea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
1 minute to discover 1000s of partitions -- yes, that is what I have observed. 
And I would assert that is very slow.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Michael Armbrust 
<mich...@databricks.com<mailto:mich...@databricks.com>> wrote:
We should not be actually scanning all of the data of all of the partitions, 
but we do need to at least list all of the available directories so that we can 
apply your predicates to the actual values that are present when we are 
deciding which files need to be read in a given spark job.  While this is a 
somewhat expensive operation, we do it in parallel and we cache this 
information when you access the same relation more than once.

Can you provide a little more detail about how exactly you are accessing the 
parquet data (are you using sqlContext.read or creating persistent tables in 
the metastore?), and how long it is taking?  It would also be good to know how 
many partitions we are talking about and how much data is in each.  Finally, 
I'd like to see the stacktrace where it is hanging to make sure my above 
assertions are correct.

We have several tables internally that have 1000s of partitions and while it 
takes ~1 minute initially to discover the metadata, after that we are able to 
query the data interactively.



On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Jerrick Hoang 
<jerrickho...@gmail.com<mailto:jerrickho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
anybody has any suggestions?

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Jerrick Hoang 
<jerrickho...@gmail.com<mailto:jerrickho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Is there a workaround without updating Hadoop? Would really appreciate if 
someone can explain what spark is trying to do here and what is an easy way to 
turn this off. Thanks all!

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Raghavendra Pandey 
<raghavendra.pan...@gmail.com<mailto:raghavendra.pan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Did you try with hadoop version 2.7.1 .. It is known that s3a works really well 
with parquet which is available in 2.7. They fixed lot of issues related to 
metadata reading there...
On Aug 21, 2015 11:24 PM, "Jerrick Hoang" 
<jerrickho...@gmail.com<mailto:jerrickho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
@Cheng, Hao : Physical plans show that it got stuck on scanning S3!

(table is partitioned by date_prefix and hour)
explain select count(*) from test_table where date_prefix='20150819' and 
hour='00';

TungstenAggregate(key=[], value=[(count(1),mode=Final,isDistinct=false)]
 TungstenExchange SinglePartition
  TungstenAggregate(key=[], value=[(count(1),mode=Partial,isDistinct=false)]
   Scan ParquetRelation[ .. <about 1000 partition paths go here> ]

Why does spark have to scan all partitions when the query only concerns with 1 
partitions? Doesn't it defeat the purpose of partitioning?

Thanks!

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Philip Weaver 
<philip.wea...@gmail.com<mailto:philip.wea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I hadn't heard of spark.sql.sources.partitionDiscovery.enabled before, and I 
couldn't find much information about it online. What does it mean exactly to 
disable it? Are there any negative consequences to disabling it?

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:53 PM, Cheng, Hao 
<hao.ch...@intel.com<mailto:hao.ch...@intel.com>> wrote:
Can you make some more profiling? I am wondering if the driver is busy with 
scanning the HDFS / S3.
Like jstack <pid of driver process>

And also, it’s will be great if you can paste the physical plan for the simple 
query.

From: Jerrick Hoang 
[mailto:jerrickho...@gmail.com<mailto:jerrickho...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 1:46 PM
To: Cheng, Hao
Cc: Philip Weaver; user
Subject: Re: Spark Sql behaves strangely with tables with a lot of partitions

I cloned from TOT after 1.5.0 cut off. I noticed there were a couple of CLs 
trying to speed up spark sql with tables with a huge number of partitions, I've 
made sure that those CLs are included but it's still very slow

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:43 PM, Cheng, Hao 
<hao.ch...@intel.com<mailto:hao.ch...@intel.com>> wrote:
Yes, you can try set the spark.sql.sources.partitionDiscovery.enabled to false.

BTW, which version are you using?

Hao

From: Jerrick Hoang 
[mailto:jerrickho...@gmail.com<mailto:jerrickho...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:16 PM
To: Philip Weaver
Cc: user
Subject: Re: Spark Sql behaves strangely with tables with a lot of partitions

I guess the question is why does spark have to do partition discovery with all 
partitions when the query only needs to look at one partition? Is there a conf 
flag to turn this off?

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Philip Weaver 
<philip.wea...@gmail.com<mailto:philip.wea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've had the same problem. It turns out that Spark (specifically parquet) is 
very slow at partition discovery. It got better in 1.5 (not yet released), but 
was still unacceptably slow. Sadly, we ended up reading parquet files manually 
in Python (via C++) and had to abandon Spark SQL because of this problem.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Jerrick Hoang 
<jerrickho...@gmail.com<mailto:jerrickho...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

I did a simple experiment with Spark SQL. I created a partitioned parquet table 
with only one partition (date=20140701). A simple `select count(*) from table 
where date=20140701` would run very fast (0.1 seconds). However, as I added 
more partitions the query takes longer and longer. When I added about 10,000 
partitions, the query took way too long. I feel like querying for a single 
partition should not be affected by having more partitions. Is this a known 
behaviour? What does spark try to do here?

Thanks,
Jerrick










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