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On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 5:58 AM, Mennour Rostom <mennou...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am running my app in a single machine first before moving it in the
> cluster; actually simultaneous actions are not working for me now; is this
> comming from the fact that I am using a single machine ? yet I am using
> FAIR scheduler.
>
> 2016-01-17 21:23 GMT+01:00 Mark Hamstra <m...@clearstorydata.com>:
>
>> It can be far more than that (e.g.
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SPARK-11838), and is generally
>> either unrecognized or a greatly under-appreciated and underused feature of
>> Spark.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Koert Kuipers <ko...@tresata.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> the re-use of shuffle files is always a nice surprise to me
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Mark Hamstra <m...@clearstorydata.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same SparkContext means same pool of Workers.  It's up to the
>>>> Scheduler, not the SparkContext, whether the exact same Workers or
>>>> Executors will be used to calculate simultaneous actions against the same
>>>> RDD.  It is likely that many of the same Workers and Executors will be used
>>>> as the Scheduler tries to preserve data locality, but that is not
>>>> guaranteed.  In fact, what is most likely to happen is that the shared
>>>> Stages and Tasks being calculated for the simultaneous actions will not
>>>> actually be run at exactly the same time, which means that shuffle files
>>>> produced for one action will be reused by the other(s), and repeated
>>>> calculations will be avoided even without explicitly caching/persisting the
>>>> RDD.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Koert Kuipers <ko...@tresata.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Same rdd means same sparkcontext means same workers
>>>>>
>>>>> Cache/persist the rdd to avoid repeated jobs
>>>>> On Jan 17, 2016 5:21 AM, "Mennour Rostom" <mennou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you all for your answers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I correctly understand, actions (in my case foreach) can be run
>>>>>> concurrently and simultaneously on the SAME rdd, (which is logical 
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> they are read only object). however, I want to know if the same workers 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> used for the concurrent analysis ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2016-01-15 21:11 GMT+01:00 Jakob Odersky <joder...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I stand corrected. How considerable are the benefits though? Will
>>>>>>> the scheduler be able to dispatch jobs from both actions simultaneously 
>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>> on a when-workers-become-available basis)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 15 January 2016 at 11:44, Koert Kuipers <ko...@tresata.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we run multiple actions on the same (cached) rdd all the time, i
>>>>>>>> guess in different threads indeed (its in akka)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Matei Zaharia <
>>>>>>>> matei.zaha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> RDDs actually are thread-safe, and quite a few applications use
>>>>>>>>> them this way, e.g. the JDBC server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Matei
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Jakob Odersky <joder...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't think RDDs are threadsafe.
>>>>>>>>> More fundamentally however, why would you want to run RDD actions
>>>>>>>>> in parallel? The idea behind RDDs is to provide you with an 
>>>>>>>>> abstraction for
>>>>>>>>> computing parallel operations on distributed data. Even if you were 
>>>>>>>>> to call
>>>>>>>>> actions from several threads at once, the individual executors of your
>>>>>>>>> spark environment would still have to perform operations sequentially.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As an alternative, I would suggest to restructure your RDD
>>>>>>>>> transformations to compute the required results in one single 
>>>>>>>>> operation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 15 January 2016 at 06:18, Jonathan Coveney <jcove...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Threads
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> El viernes, 15 de enero de 2016, Kira <mennou...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can we run *simultaneous* actions on the *same RDD* ?; if yes
>>>>>>>>>>> how can this
>>>>>>>>>>> be done ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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