That 3 months retention is just a soft setting. For low volume traffic, it
can be negotiated to a year’s retention. Let me see what we can do about it.

HTH

On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 at 09:31, Bjørn Jørgensen <bjornjorgen...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> One of the things that I don't like about this slack solution is that
> questions and answers disappear after 90 days. Today's maillist solution is
> indexed by search engines and when one day you wonder about something, you
> can find solutions with the help of just searching the web. Another
> question that I have is why has apache superset
> <https://superset.apache.org> taken away their slack channel. They have
> it linked to on the website but the link is giving errors
> <https://apache-superset.slack.com/join/shared_invite/zt-1pj34ugpe-23fJZ7DIH~F~ffIkHsRv1g#/shared-invite/error>.
> Have they had any experience that this was not the best solution or is it
> just that the link does not work.
>
> tir. 4. apr. 2023 kl. 09:06 skrev Mich Talebzadeh <
> mich.talebza...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Shani,
>>
>> I believe I am an admin so that is fine by me.
>>
>> Hi Dongioon,
>>
>> With regard to summarising the discussion etc, no need, It is like
>> flogging the dead horse, we have already discussed it enough. I don't see
>> the point of it.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Mich Talebzadeh,
>> Lead Solutions Architect/Engineering Lead
>> Palantir Technologies Limited
>>
>>
>>    view my Linkedin profile
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/>
>>
>>
>>  https://en.everybodywiki.com/Mich_Talebzadeh
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Tue, 4 Apr 2023 at 07:06, <shani.alis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Dongjoon, Denny and all,
>>>
>>> I’ve created the current slack.
>>> All users have the option to create channels for different topics.
>>>
>>> I don’t see a reason for creating a new one.
>>>
>>> If anyone want to be admin on the current slack channel you all are
>>> welcome to send me a msg and I’ll grand permission.
>>>
>>> Have a great week,
>>> Shani Alisar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4 Apr 2023, at 3:51, Dongjoon Hyun <dongjoon.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Thank you, Denny.
>>>
>>> May I interpret your comment as a request to support multiple channels
>>> in ASF too?
>>>
>>> > because it would allow us to create multiple channels for different
>>> topics
>>>
>>> Any other reasons?
>>>
>>> Dongjoon.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 5:31 PM Denny Lee <denny.g....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do think creating a new Slack channel would be helpful because it
>>>> would allow us to create multiple channels for different topics -
>>>> streaming, graph, ML, etc.
>>>>
>>>> We would need a volunteer core to maintain it so we can keep the spirit
>>>> and letter of ASF / code of conduct.  I’d be glad to volunteer to keep this
>>>> active.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 16:46 Dongjoon Hyun <dongjoon.h...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Shall we summarize the discussion so far?
>>>>>
>>>>> To sum up, "ASF Slack" vs "3rd-party Slack" was the real background to
>>>>> initiate this thread instead of "Slack" vs "Mailing list"?
>>>>>
>>>>> If ASF Slack provides what you need, is it better than creating a
>>>>> new Slack channel?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, is there another reason for us to create a new Slack channel?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dongjoon.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 3, 2023 at 3:27 PM Mich Talebzadeh <
>>>>> mich.talebza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree, whatever individual sentiments are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mich Talebzadeh,
>>>>>> Lead Solutions Architect/Engineering Lead
>>>>>> Palantir Technologies Limited
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    view my Linkedin profile
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 at 23:21, Jungtaek Lim <
>>>>>> kabhwan.opensou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just to be clear, if there is no strong volunteer to make the new
>>>>>>> community channel stay active, I'd probably be OK to not fork the 
>>>>>>> channel.
>>>>>>> You can see a strong counter example from #spark channel in ASF. It is 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> place where there are only questions and promos but zero answers. I see
>>>>>>> volunteers here demanding for another channel, so I want to see us go 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the most preferred way for these volunteers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> User mailing list does not go in a good shape. I hope we give
>>>>>>> another try with recent technology to see whether we can gain traction 
>>>>>>> - if
>>>>>>> we fail, the user mailing list will still be there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 7:04 AM Jungtaek Lim <
>>>>>>> kabhwan.opensou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The number of subscribers doesn't give any meaningful value. Please
>>>>>>>> look into the number of mails being sent to the list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/list.html?user@spark.apache.org
>>>>>>>> The latest month there were more than 200 emails being sent was Feb
>>>>>>>> 2022, more than a year ago. It was more than 1k in 2016, and more than 
>>>>>>>> 2k
>>>>>>>> in 2015 and earlier.
>>>>>>>> Let's face the fact. User mailing list is dying, even before we
>>>>>>>> start discussion about alternative communication methods.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Users never go with the way if it's just because PMC members (or
>>>>>>>> ASF) have preference. They are going with the way they are convenient.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Same applies here - if ASF Slack requires a restricted invitation
>>>>>>>> mechanism then it won't work. Looks like there is a link for an 
>>>>>>>> invitation,
>>>>>>>> but we are also talking about the cost as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Slack+Guest+Invites
>>>>>>>> As long as we are being serious about the cost, I don't think we
>>>>>>>> are going to land in the way "users" are convenient.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 4:59 AM Dongjoon Hyun <
>>>>>>>> dongjoon.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As Mich Talebzadeh pointed out, Apache Spark has an official Slack
>>>>>>>>> channel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > It's unavoidable if "users" prefer to use an alternative
>>>>>>>>> communication mechanism rather than the user mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The following is the number of people in the official channels.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - user@spark.apache.org has 4519 subscribers.
>>>>>>>>> - d...@spark.apache.org has 3149 subscribers.
>>>>>>>>> - ASF Official Slack channel has 602 subscribers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> May I ask if the users prefer to use the ASF Official Slack
>>>>>>>>> channel than the user mailing list?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dongjoon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 9:10 PM Jungtaek Lim <
>>>>>>>>> kabhwan.opensou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm reading through the page "Briefing: The Apache Way", and in
>>>>>>>>>> the section of "Open Communications", restriction of communication 
>>>>>>>>>> inside
>>>>>>>>>> ASF INFRA (mailing list) is more about code and decision-making.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.apache.org/theapacheway/#what-makes-the-apache-way-so-hard-to-define
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's unavoidable if "users" prefer to use an alternative
>>>>>>>>>> communication mechanism rather than the user mailing list. Before 
>>>>>>>>>> Stack
>>>>>>>>>> Overflow days, there had been a meaningful number of questions 
>>>>>>>>>> around user@.
>>>>>>>>>> It's just impossible to let them go back and post to the user 
>>>>>>>>>> mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We just need to make sure it is not the purpose of
>>>>>>>>>> employing Slack to move all discussions about developments, 
>>>>>>>>>> direction of
>>>>>>>>>> the project, etc which must happen in dev@/private@. The purpose
>>>>>>>>>> of Slack thread here does not seem to aim to serve the purpose.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 7:00 AM Mich Talebzadeh <
>>>>>>>>>> mich.talebza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good discussions and proposals.all around.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have used slack in anger on a customer site before. For small
>>>>>>>>>>> and medium size groups it is good and affordable. Alternatives have 
>>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>>> suggested as well so those who like investigative search can agree 
>>>>>>>>>>> and come
>>>>>>>>>>> up with a freebie one.
>>>>>>>>>>> I am inclined to agree with Bjorn that this slack has more
>>>>>>>>>>> social dimensions than the mailing list. It is akin to a sports 
>>>>>>>>>>> club using
>>>>>>>>>>> WhatsApp groups for communication. Remember we were originally 
>>>>>>>>>>> looking for
>>>>>>>>>>> space for webinars, including Spark on Linkedin that Denney Lee 
>>>>>>>>>>> suggested.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think Slack and mailing groups can coexist happily. On a more 
>>>>>>>>>>> serious
>>>>>>>>>>> note, when I joined the user group back in 2015-2016, there was a 
>>>>>>>>>>> lot of
>>>>>>>>>>> traffic. Currently we hardly get many mails daily <> less than 5. 
>>>>>>>>>>> So having
>>>>>>>>>>> a slack type medium may improve members participation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> so +1 for me as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mich Talebzadeh,
>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Solutions Architect/Engineering Lead
>>>>>>>>>>> Palantir Technologies Limited
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    view my Linkedin profile
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  https://en.everybodywiki.com/Mich_Talebzadeh
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> monetary damages arising from such loss, damage or destruction.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 22:19, Denny Lee <denny.g....@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To Shani’s point, there are multiple OSS projects that use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> free Slack version - top of mind include Delta, Presto, Flink, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Trino,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Datahub, MLflow, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 14:15 <shani.alis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should remain on a free program in slack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my option the free program is more then enough, the only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> down side is we could only see the last 90 days messages.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From what I know the Airflow community (which has strong
>>>>>>>>>>>>> active community in slack) also use the free program (You can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell by the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 90 days limit notice in their workspace).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can find the pricing and features comparison between the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> slack programs here <https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/pricing> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shani
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30 Mar 2023, at 23:38, Mridul Muralidharan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for flagging the concern Dongjoon, I was not aware of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion - but I can understand the concern.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would be great if you or Matei could update the thread on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of deliberations, once it reaches a logical consensus: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> before we set
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up official policy around it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mridul
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 4:23 PM Bjørn Jørgensen <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bjornjorgen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like the idea of having a talk channel. It can make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier for everyone to say hello. Or to dare to ask about small 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matters that you would not have dared to ask about before on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But then there is the price and what is the best for an open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The price for using slack is expensive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now for those that have join spark slack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $8.75 USD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 72 members
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 month
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $630 USD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://app.slack.com/plans/T04URTRBZ1R/checkout/form?entry_point=hero_banner_upgrade_cta&s=2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And they - slack does not have an option for open source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There seems to be some alternatives for open source software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not tried it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.rocket.chat/blog/slack-open-source-alternatives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <image.png>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rocket chat is open source
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/RocketChat/Rocket.Chat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tor. 30. mar. 2023 kl. 18:54 skrev Mich Talebzadeh <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mich.talebza...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Dongjoon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to your points if I may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Do you have any reference from other official ASF-related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slack channels?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    No, I don't have any reference from other official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF-related Slack channels because I don't think that matters. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stand corrected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - To be clear, I intentionally didn't refer to any specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list because we didn't set up any rule here yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    fair enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going back to your original point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ..There is a concern expressed by ASF board because recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slack activities created an isolated silo outside of ASF 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> archive...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, there are activities on Spark and indeed other open
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source software everywhere. One way or other they do help 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting community
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (inside the user groups and other) to get interested and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involved. Slack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens to be one of them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am of the opinion that creating such silos is already a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reality and we ought to be pragmatic. Unless there is an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overriding reason,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we should embrace it as slack can co-exist with the other 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing lists and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channels like linkedin etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this clarifies my position
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mich Talebzadeh,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Solutions Architect/Engineering Lead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palantir Technologies Limited
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    view my Linkedin profile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://en.everybodywiki.com/Mich_Talebzadeh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsibility for any loss, damage or destruction of data or 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property which may arise from relying on this email's technical 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explicitly disclaimed. The author will in no case be liable for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monetary damages arising from such loss, damage or destruction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 17:28, Dongjoon Hyun <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dongjoon.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To Mich.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Do you have any reference from other official ASF-related
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slack channels?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - To be clear, I intentionally didn't refer to any specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list because we didn't set up any rule here yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To Xiao. I understand what you mean. That's the reason why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added Matei from your side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I did not see an objection from the ASF board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is on-going discussion about the communication
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channels outside ASF email which is specifically concerning 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please hold on any official action for this topic. We will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to support it seamlessly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dongjoon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 9:21 AM Xiao Li <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gatorsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Dongjoon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other communities (e.g., Pinot, Druid, Flink) created
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their own Slack workspaces last year. I did not see an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> objection from the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF board. At the same time, Slack workspaces are very 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> popular and useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in most non-ASF open source communities. TBH, we are kind of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> late. I think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can do the same in our community?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We can follow the guide when the ASF has an official
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process for ASF archiving. Since our PMC are the owner of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workspace, we can make a change based on the policy. WDYT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xiao
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dongjoon Hyun <dongjoon.h...@gmail.com> 于2023年3月30日周四
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09:03写道:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Xiao and all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (cc Matei)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please hold on the vote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a concern expressed by ASF board because recent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slack activities created an isolated silo outside of ASF 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> archive.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to establish a way to embrace it back to ASF
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> archive before starting anything official.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bests,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dongjoon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 11:32 PM Xiao Li <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gatorsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + @d...@spark.apache.org <d...@spark.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a good idea. The other Apache projects (e.g.,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pinot, Druid, Flink) have created their own dedicated Slack 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workspaces for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> faster communication. We can do the same in Apache Spark. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Slack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workspace will be maintained by the Apache Spark PMC. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> propose to initiate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a vote for the creation of a new Apache Spark Slack 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workspace. Does that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound good?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xiao
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mich Talebzadeh <mich.talebza...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 于2023年3月28日周二 07:07写道:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I created one at slack called pyspark
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mich Talebzadeh,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lead Solutions Architect/Engineering Lead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Palantir Technologies Limited
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    view my Linkedin profile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mich-talebzadeh-ph-d-5205b2/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://en.everybodywiki.com/Mich_Talebzadeh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsibility for any loss, damage or destruction of data 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or any other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> property which may arise from relying on this email's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical content is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explicitly disclaimed. The author will in no case be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liable for any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monetary damages arising from such loss, damage or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destruction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 at 03:52, asma zgolli <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zgollia...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 good idea, I d like to join as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 28 mars 2023 à 04:09, Winston Lai <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weiruanl...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let us know when the channel is created. I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like to join :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank You & Best Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winston Lai
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Denny Lee <denny.g....@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 28, 2023 9:43:08 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Hyukjin Kwon <gurwls...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* keen <kee...@gmx.net>; user@spark.apache.org <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user@spark.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Slack for PySpark users
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 I think this is a great idea!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 6:24 PM Hyukjin Kwon <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gurwls...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, actually I think we should better have a slack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> channel so we can easily discuss with users and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 at 03:08, keen <kee...@gmx.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I really like *Slack *as communication channel for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tech community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a Slack workspace for *delta lake users* (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://go.delta.io/slack) that I enjoy a lot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was wondering if there is something similar for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PySpark users.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If not, would there be anything wrong with creating a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new Slack workspace for PySpark users? (when explicitly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this is *not* officially part of Apache Spark)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Martin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asma ZGOLLI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph.D. in Big Data - Applied Machine Learning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bjørn Jørgensen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vestre Aspehaug 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/Vestre+Aspehaug+4?entry=gmail&source=g>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6010 Ålesund
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Norge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +47 480 94 297
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> --
> Bjørn Jørgensen
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>
> +47 480 94 297
>
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