Tomer Azran napsal(a):
I tend to agree with Klaus – I don't think that having a hook that bypass
stonith is the right way. It is better to not use stonith at all.
I think I will try to use an iScsi target on my qdevice and set SBD to use it.
I still don't understand why qdevice can't take the place SBD with shared
storage; correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like both of them are there for
the same reason.
Qdevice is there to be third side arbiter who decides which partition is
quorate. It can also be seen as a quorum only node. So for two node
cluster it can be viewed as a third node (eventho it is quite special
because it cannot run resources). It is not doing fencing.
SBD is fencing device. It is using disk as a third side arbiter.
From: Klaus Wenninger [mailto:kwenn...@redhat.com]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:01 PM
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<users@clusterlabs.org>; Prasad, Shashank <sspra...@vanu.com>
Subject: Re: [ClusterLabs] Two nodes cluster issue
On 07/24/2017 07:32 PM, Prasad, Shashank wrote:
Sometimes IPMI fence devices use shared power of the node, and it cannot be
avoided.
In such scenarios the HA cluster is NOT able to handle the power failure of a
node, since the power is shared with its own fence device.
The failure of IPMI based fencing can also exist due to other reasons also.
A failure to fence the failed node will cause cluster to be marked UNCLEAN.
To get over it, the following command needs to be invoked on the surviving node.
pcs stonith confirm <failed_node_name> --force
This can be automated by hooking a recovery script, when the the Stonith
resource ‘Timed Out’ event.
To be more specific, the Pacemaker Alerts can be used for watch for Stonith
timeouts and failures.
In that script, all that’s essentially to be executed is the aforementioned
command.
If I get you right here you can disable fencing then in the first place.
Actually quorum-based-watchdog-fencing is the way to do this in a
safe manner. This of course assumes you have a proper source for
quorum in your 2-node-setup with e.g. qdevice or using a shared
disk with sbd (not directly pacemaker quorum here but similar thing
handled inside sbd).
Since the alerts are issued from ‘hacluster’ login, sudo permissions for
‘hacluster’ needs to be configured.
Thanx.
From: Klaus Wenninger [mailto:kwenn...@redhat.com]
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [ClusterLabs] Two nodes cluster issue
On 07/24/2017 05:37 PM, Kristián Feldsam wrote:
I personally think that power off node by switched pdu is more safe, or not?
True if that is working in you environment. If you can't do a physical setup
where you aren't simultaneously loosing connection to both your node and
the switch-device (or you just want to cover cases where that happens)
you have to come up with something else.
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On 24 Jul 2017, at 17:27, Klaus Wenninger
<kwenn...@redhat.com<mailto:kwenn...@redhat.com>> wrote:
On 07/24/2017 05:15 PM, Tomer Azran wrote:
I still don't understand why the qdevice concept doesn't help on this
situation. Since the master node is down, I would expect the quorum to declare
it as dead.
Why doesn't it happens?
That is not how quorum works. It just limits the decision-making to the quorate
subset of the cluster.
Still the unknown nodes are not sure to be down.
That is why I suggested to have quorum-based watchdog-fencing with sbd.
That would assure that within a certain time all nodes of the non-quorate part
of the cluster are down.
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 4:15 PM +0300, "Dmitri Maziuk"
<dmitri.maz...@gmail.com<mailto:dmitri.maz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 2017-07-24 07:51, Tomer Azran wrote:
We don't have the ability to use it.
Is that the only solution?
No, but I'd recommend thinking about it first. Are you sure you will
care about your cluster working when your server room is on fire? 'Cause
unless you have halon suppression, your server room is a complete
write-off anyway. (Think water from sprinklers hitting rich chunky volts
in the servers.)
Dima
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