I see. You need to ensure that you get _all_ Person.

For this case, I guess you are right. You would need to first aggregate the folder per person:

KTable allPersonFolders =
    folder.groupBy((...) -> (folder.customerId, ...))
          .aggregate(...)

And in a second step, do a left join:

result = personTable.leftJoin(allPersonFolders,...)


Reading the topic as a table directly did not work out as that crashed
the application; apparently reading the topic as a KTable and then
using that for three independent re-key-operations is not allowed.

Not sure if I can follow. What do you mean by "crashed". -- For tables, there is no `selectKey()` nor a `repartition()` as explained in my previous reply. However, doing a `table.groupBy(...)` will set a new key and repartition the data to your needs.


-Matthias


On 2/1/24 1:12 AM, Karsten Stöckmann wrote:
Thanks so much for taking a look. An FK-table-table join is an inner
join which implies there would be no Person entites without associated
Folders. Unfortunately, that's not the case. That lead me to an
attempt of re-keying the Folder topic by each of the three possible
foreign keys in order to be able to left join Persons against each of
the three re-keyed KTables to build an eventual Person aggregation
containing all possible Folders associated in any way.

Reading the topic as a table directly did not work out as that crashed
the application; apparently reading the topic as a KTable and then
using that for three independent re-key-operations is not allowed.

Best wishes,
Karsten

Am Do., 1. Feb. 2024 um 02:16 Uhr schrieb Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>:

Thanks for the details. This does make sense.

So it seems you can read all topic as table (ie, builder.table("topic")
-- no need to so `builder.stream().toTable()`).

And you can use the built-in FK-table-table join, and aggregate the result:

KTable result =
    folderTable
        .join(personTable, (folderId, folder) -> folder.customerId, ...)
        .groupBy((...) -> (personId, ...))
        .aggregate(...);
result.toStream().to("resultTopic");

Note the fk-extractor `(folderId, folder) -> folder.customerId` that
tells the join to use `customerId` from the `folderTable` to lookup the
person from personTable.

Think of `folderTable` as fact-table and `personTable` as dimension table.


KS will take care of everything else under the hood automatically.


-Matthias

On 1/30/24 11:25 AM, Karsten Stöckmann wrote:
Matthias, thanks for getting back on this. I'll try to illustrate my
intent with an example as I'm not yet fully familiar with Kafka
(Streams) and its idioms...

Assume classes Person and Folder:

class Person {
    Long id;
    String firstname;
    String lastname;
    // some content
}

class Folder {
    Long id;
    String folderNumber;
    // some other content
    Long customerId; // FK, points to Person.id
    Long billingAddressId; // FK, also points to Person.id
}

Thus both foreign keys of Folder point to Person entities, yet with
different semantics. They're not composite keys but act independently.

Now assume I want to build an aggregate Person object containing
Folder.folderNumber of all folders associated with a Person entity,
regardless whether it acts as a customer or billing address. My
(naive) idea was to build re-keyed KTables by Folder.customerId and
Folder.billingAddressId and then joining / aggregating them with the
Person KTable in order to build something like this:

class AggregatedPerson {
    Long id;
    List<String> folderNumbers; // or even List<Folder>
    // ...
}

(The latter supposed to be written to an output topic in order to
serve as input for Solr or ElasticSearch.)

Does this even make sense?


If you read the topic a KTable, you cannot repartition because it
violates the contract. A KTable must be partitioned by it's primary key,
ie, the ID field, and thus the DSL does not offer you a repartition option.

So re-key means repartition? ATM the partition size of all input
topics is 1 as per Kafka UI, as I've specified no extra configuration
for them.

Best wishes,
Karsten

Am Di., 30. Jan. 2024 um 20:03 Uhr schrieb Matthias J. Sax <mj...@apache.org>:

Both fk1 and fk2 point to the PK of another entity (not shown for
brevity, of no relevance to the question).

It this two independent FK, or one two-column FK?


Ingesting the topic into a Kafka Streams application, how can I re-key
the resulting KTable<Long, A> by both fk1 and fk2?

If you read the topic a KTable, you cannot repartition because it
violates the contract. A KTable must be partitioned by it's primary key,
ie, the ID field, and thus the DSL does not offer you a repartition option.

You could read the topic as KStream though, and provide a custom
`StreamPartitioner` for a `repartition()` operation. However, this is
also "dangerous" because for a KStream it's also assumed that it's
partitioned by it's key, and you might break downstream DSL operators
with such a violation of the "contract".

Looking into your solution:

.toTable()
      .groupBy(
          (key, value) -> KeyValue.pair(value.fk1(), value),
          Grouped.with(...))

This will set fk1 as key, what seems not to align with you previous
comment about the key should stay the ID? (Same for f2k).

Your last step seems to join fk1-fk2 -- is this on purpose? I guess it's
unclear what you try to actually do to begin with? It sound like it's
overall a self-join of the input topic on fk1 and fk2 ?


-Matthias

On 1/28/24 2:24 AM, Karsten Stöckmann wrote:
Hi all,

just stumbled upon another Kafka Streams issue that keeps me busy these days.

Assume a (simplified) class A like this:

class A {
       private Long id;
       private String someContent;
       private Long fk1;
       private Long fk2;
       // Getters and setters accordingly
}

Both fk1 and fk2 point to the PK of another entity (not shown for
brevity, of no relevance to the question).

Now assume a Kafka topic built from instances of class A, keyed by its
id (see above).

Ingesting the topic into a Kafka Streams application, how can I re-key
the resulting KTable<Long, A> by both fk1 and fk2? Note that the
resulting key should not be changed or turned into some kind of
composite key as it is used in later join operations.

My (naive) solution involves creating two KTables from the input
stream, re-keying them by fk1 and fk2 accordingly and then outer
joining both resulting (re-keyed) KTables.

KStream<Long, A> in = streamsBuilder.stream(topic, Consumed.with(...));

KTable<Long, A> rekeyedByFk1 = in
       .toTable()
       .groupBy(
           (key, value) -> KeyValue.pair(value.fk1(), value),
           Grouped.with(...))
       .aggregate(
           Aggregate::new,
           (key, value, aggregate) -> aggregate.add(value),
           (key, value, aggregate) -> aggregate.remove(value),
           Materialized.with(...));

KTable<Long, a> rekeyedByFk2 = in
       .toTable()
       .groupBy(
           (key, value) -> KeyValue.pair(value.fk2(), value),
           Grouped.with(...))
       .aggregate(
           ... same as above
       );

KTable<Long, A> joined = rekeyedByFk1
       .outerJoin(
           rekeyedByFk2,
           <value joiner>)
         .groupBy(KeyValue::pair, Grouped.with(...))
       .aggregate(...);

<value joiner> would integrate the (already pre-joined) Aggregates as
to avoid duplicates.

Does this seem like a viable solution, or are there better / simpler /
more efficient implementations?

Best wishes,
Karsten

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