What you are saying is excatly part of the problem. Like you said, if it wasn't Bochco, no press. Heck it's not even orginal....and the sad/funny part is it will still cost 10-20 times the amount it should to produce.....MSM really has no idea what is happening at a fundamental level but we all knew that right?
Like I said before, who cares, I vlog because I can! Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Cammack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem that I have with people making a big deal that Steven > Bochco is doing an internet series is that there's nothing "Steven > Bochco" about it. See for yourself. <http://www.metacafe.com/cc>. If > you remove his name from the series, you have a bunch of random people > standing around in non-descript locations telling unverifiable stories > that the viewer is supposed to accept as truth about that person's life. > > Period. > > Make a big deal when he's involved with something groundbreaking, like > his television work. I mean, come on. "Cafe Confidential" isn't even > "39 Second Single"! <http://www.39secondsingle.blogspot.com/>. "39" > has editing, backgrounds, characters, punchlines..... You could bring > a backdrop with you and film 44 episodes of "Cafe Confidential" in any > mall in the country in one week. How are you going to make a big deal > that someone (according to IMDB <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004766/>) > who's won 10 Emmy Awards has lent his name to a project with > ABSOLUTELY.ZERO.PRODUCTION.VALUE? hahahaha :/ > > Here's what MetaCafe had to say about it on their blog: > <http://blog.metacafe.com/?p=109> > > "So what is Cafe Confidential? It's a whole new section of Metacafe. > And it's all about storytelling - the girl next door and the guy > across hall telling you about their craziest experiences, with no > scripts, no sets and no special effects." > > "Café Confidential was conceived by Hollywood producer Steven Bochco. > After creating such hit television series as "NYPD Blue" and "L.A. > Law," Bochco wanted to find a new generation of storytellers - but not > another screenwriter. His Café Confidential team scouted the streets > and malls of L.A. in search of interesting young men and women." > > "These "amateur" storytellers weren't afraid to get personal as they > described their dates, their jobs and their families. Bochco then > selected the best of the stories for Metacafe, which is what you'll > find at Café Confidential right now." > > So, actually, Steven Bochco has NOTHING to do with the series except > giving the yay or nay to whatever his APs went out and shot. > > Anyone else could have done exactly the same thing, and it would have > gotten ZERO press. I think I'll make a series about people standing > at bus stops around my city and call it "Bus Stop Confidential". :/ > > -- > Bill C. > http://TheLab.ReelSolid.TV > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Gena" <compumavengal@> wrote: > > > > I try to limit how much crap I can stand in one day. Today, not so > > good. I feel barfy. I was reading the article about Steven Bocho's > > stepping into internet video and he sees it as a diversion. That's > > what Bocho sees or has come to understand about Internet video. > > > > And how do you divert the masses quickly? According to him it is sex. > > I'm not against sex. I am not against videos about sex, that included > > sex or even if there is no sex at all. > > > > My point is that it is hard for many people to have an expanded > > vision. Most people think YouTube is vlogging. That's what the news > > media and a bunch of other sites that post YT videos tell people. > > > > There is a lot of education/information exchanging that has to take > > place with the non-blogging public. Unfortunately, the news media and > > others are putting there imprint on what they want to perceive as > > blogs/vlogs. When I do presentations people are surprised when I show > > them a variety of blogs and non YT vlogs. I hear it all the time "I > > didn't know!" "How long has this been going on?" > > > > Another thing to consider is time is fractured. Most people tend to > > allocate what time they have available with and growing set of > resources. > > > > Good vlogs are not easy to find for novice users. You have to have the > > right players on the system. Bandwidth issues. And even if you send > > them the link they are too embarrassed to tell you they don't know how > > to view the video. > > > > In closing, I hold dear that statement that Barry Diller gave as few > > months ago and is buried in the archive. > > > > A quote from InterActiveCorp CEO Barry Diller: > > > > > There is not that much talent in the world, and talent always outs. > > > There are very few really talented people in closets that don't get > > > out. When we are talking about mass audience, which is the system of > > > entertainment we have known for some time, when you are really > > making a television program or a game there will be relatively few > > people [able to do that] because there is simply not enough talent. > > That may be a birdbrained statement, but it is mine. > > > > > > "People with talent and expertise at making entertainment products > > are not going to be displaced by 1,800 people coming up with their > > videos that they think are going to have an appeal." > > > > I continue to live (and blog/vlog)in defiance! > > > > Gena > > http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com > > http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert <rupert@> wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, and this weekend I listened to an extremely intelligent, well- > > > respected man telling me that man-made global warming was a myth, > > > presumably just because he wanted to provoke a response / have an > > > iconoclastic opinion. I didn't rise to that, either. > > > > > > These aren't really provocative - they're shallow subjective > personal > > > opinions based on limited experiences, masquerading as broad > > > statements of fact. > > > > > > I always assume that the majority of regular people think I'm weird > > > (or worse) for putting videos online, because I think they > probably do. > > > > > > Define 'failure' as stated by David Scott Lexis, when he says 'video > > > blogs have been a failure'. What have they failed at? > > > > > > So they're not as popular or accessible as American Idol (even here, > > > we're infected) but then neither is [fill in blank]. I guess [fill > > > in blank] has been a failure, too. That's a really interesting > > > viewpoint, David - thanks for your input. > > > > > > From all the scores of people that I know or have talked to about > my > > > videoblog in Real Life over the past 2 years, there are only 2 who > > > have blogs and maybe 3 others who ever read blogs. > > > > > > I forward on links to vlogs to my friends and family whenever I > think > > > they'd be interested in a particular video - but not one has ever > > > wanted to have a vlog or blog themselves or to continue to watch or > > > read by themselves. > > > > > > The overwhelming majority of people you talk to in the UK think that > > > blogs are confessional public diaries for narcissists (not that > > > they've ever read one, if you ask). By this measure, 'blogs have > > > been a failure' > > > > > > As for that other guy "Erick"s definition of entertainment... yawn. > > > Some people make them. Some people watch them. Some people enjoy > > > them. Some people do good and interesting things and reach > audiences > > > that they couldn't have reached before. What possible relevance has > > > someone's subjective viewpoint of 'boring' or 'failure' got to do > > > with this? My wife Kate is enjoying the new American Idol. I'd > > > rather drill out my own teeth than sit through it. So what? > > > > > > I don't really know why I'm replying to this, because I don't think > > > these opinions are worth getting bothered about. I'm just putting > > > off work. Now that *is* boring. Maybe I'll just watch a few videos > > > before I start. > > > > > > Rupert > > > http://www.fatgirlinohio.org > > > http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ > > > > > > On 19 Mar 2007, at 10:43, Michael Schaap wrote: > > > > > > FYI > > > > > > In the comments on a short TechCrunch review (http://tinyurl.com/ > > > 2bcqx5) about VLIP i > > > read the following provocative statements: > > > > > > 'Erick' writes: > > > > > > "Unless a person is at least the slightest bit entertaining, > Vlogging > > > stinks. I dont want to > > > look at some weirdo sitting at home/work talking into a webcam about > > > their lame day or > > > skill or opinion. If you arent as entertaining as Ze Frank, then you > > > stink and nobody wants > > > to hear/see you..." > > > > > > and David Scott Lexis writes: > > > > > > "Video blogs have been a failure, as I noted in a couple of AlwaysOn > > > Network columns. > > > Videos are one thing; automatically downloading video blogs (or > video > > > podcasts; I prefer > > > "video podcasts") is too bandwidth intensive, too slow, takes up too > > > much hard disk space. > > > > > > You want to leave your computer on all night to download video > > > podcasts? Well, good for > > > you but you're in the minority. How many video podcasts have been > > > successful? Do any > > > have over 10,000 subscribers to their feed? > > > > > > Compare and contrast with "standard" blogs such as this one. > Matter > > > of fact, are there > > > any video podcasts that have even 1% of the subscribers that > > > TechCrunch has? None that > > > I'm aware of, and in my public blogroll I subscribe to a lot (http:// > > > www.bloglines.com/ > > > public/DSL). > > > > > > Mind you, this might be a decent idea, but until bandwidth, hard > disk > > > space and all sorts > > > of other limitations are overcome (like the need for better and > > > easier production > > > techniques), it will remain a novelty for the SXSW crowd (and > they're > > > not early adopters, > > > they're "way-too-early adopters"; in the 70's they would have been > > > touting the wonders of > > > AI). > > > > > > BTW, I still subscribe to several video podcasts for my iPod. But I > > > suspect that I'm in the > > > minority; I know very few people outside of the Bay area who > > > subscribe to more than a few > > > (if any) and I don't know anyone in China (where I currently live) > > > who subscribes to any > > > not even one. YouTube, thumbs up; video blogs & video podcasts, > > > thumbs down (too > > > early). > > > > > > Remember, so-called and self-anointed pioneers usually wind up with > > > arrows in their > > > back. Besides, how many people really have good "TV"/video presence? > > > Not a lot. Good > > > podcasters are a subset of good bloggers, but good vloggers are a > > > subset of good > > > podcasters: That's a tiny set..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
