Nice to see we are all just getting along.
jad
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--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Bluestein"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I''m sorry that you're sorry that Jeffrey feels that way.
> Richard
>
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Furrier <john@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Jeffrey. I'm sorry that you feel that way. We stand up for
> video producers and people investing in the space. It can get
> commercial and I understand the perceptions there. As the net accepts
> more and more independent producers new talent will emerge. That is
> my opinion and I'm behind that. PodTech is far from old media and in
> fact we'll experiment and innovate as much as we can to push the
> envelope on ideas and creativity. I know others feel the same way -
> create content, innovate, and push the envelope on new ideas.
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Taylor
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 8:57 AM
> > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] The Vloggies (was Re: irina gone)
> >
> >
> > The whole Podtech Affair (Irina, Lan, Vloggies, the public
defenses from
> > Scoble and Furrier) reeks of traditional ("old") media, old business.
> > Instead of standing up for something or for other people, we are
> left with
> > nothing but a diluted, tasteless word salad.
> >
> > On 24/07/07, J. Rhett Aultman
> <wlight@<mailto:wlight%40weatherlight.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I strongly agree with this. I realize it's "business as usual" for
> more
> > > traditional media businesses to use award shows as a way to
> scratch the
> > > backs of their VIPs and biggest stakeholders, but I find something
> like
> > > that entirely disingenuous in the case of PodTech and the
> Vloggies. Not
> > > only that, but it's bad business sense in a market where the largest
> > > stakeholders are ill defined and change every few months.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rhett.
> > > http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime
> > > http://www.weatherlight.com/greentime
> > >
> > >
> > > > John, this is why you have to talk about this here and not on the
> > > > phone with someone. If you want to engage this community then
engage
> > > > us. You can't have private, offline conversations about things
like
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > > For everyone else, if you don't like the way PodTech is handling
> > > > things then DON'T LET THEM HANDLE IT. Don't participate in their
> > > > awards show and don't accept any awards. If nobody recognizes "The
> > > > Vloggies" then it doesn't matter who owns the trademark. If you
> still
> > > > want awards then someone will have to organize the community to
> do it.
> > > >
> > > > - Verdi
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/24/07, Kent Nichols
>
<digitalfilmmaker@<mailto:digitalfilmmaker%40gmail.com><digitalfilmmaker%40gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> Off-list? If you want to engage my professional services,
> contact my
> > > >> agents. Barrett Garese at UTA.
> > > >>
> > > >> If you want to talk about the Vloggies, let's talk about the
> Vloggies
> > > >> here in public.
> > > >>
> > > >> I support an open awards show that is owned by no company. I
think
> > > >> that
> > > >> Trademarking Vloggies gives your company too much control. The
> Oscars
> > > >> are owned by the film industry, and the Emmys are owned by the TV
> > > >> industry. There were several sponsors last year, don't they
> also have
> > > >> as much right to the mark of the Vloggies as PodTech?
> > > >>
> > > >> Oh but you have more rights don't you? Because the person
that came
> > > >> up
> > > >> with the idea, the person that organized it and made it a
> success was
> > > >> on
> > > >> your dime... The person that was just let go, right after the
> > > >> Trademark
> > > >> was filed...
> > > >>
> > > >> By landgrabbing "Vloggies", you are trying to own an industry,
> which is
> > > >> unconscionable.
> > > >>
> > > >> You guys are smart, you're just caught in a lot of bad decisions.
> > > >>
> > > >> You should donate that mark to the Creative Commons, or EFF, or
> create
> > > >> a
> > > >> new non-profit that will run the awards. That would be the
> right thing
> > > >> to do, and might start repairing the PR nightmare you guys are
> > > >> experiencing right now.
> > > >>
> > > >> -Kent, askaninja.com
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In
> videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>
> <videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > John Furrier <john@> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Kent,
> > > >> > Email me if you'd like to get involved and we can chat off list
> > > >> >
> > > >> > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://michaelverdi.com
> > > > http://spinxpress.com
> > > > http://freevlog.org
> > > > Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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