they did two things wrong 
1 they said current users would be grandfathered in that is not the case now. 
2  they didn't give a monthly option or have a lower price for just the iPhone 


Dennis Long
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> On Mar 26, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> What I think is that originally the new owners thought that they would have 
> enough new subscribers to keep it going, and that is why they originally 
> stated that current owners did not have to subscribe.  But now that a year 
> has past, they did not get as many new subscribers as they planned, so in 
> order to keep it going, they are having to make everybody subscribe, even 
> those owners that existed when they bought the company.  
> 
> One thing to keep in mind is that the Mac version has always been a 
> subscription, and that price is $60 a year.  If I remember correctly, Winston 
> set that price when it was released.  All the owners are now doing is 
> including the iOS app within that subscription.  So now for $60, you get both 
> the iOS and Mac versions.
> 
> I do think Voice Dream is worth the subscription, especially if you are 
> someone that uses it all the time.  I will say that there has been a lot of 
> updates over the last year.  So the new owners are not just letting it sit 
> and stay as it was when they got it.  The only thing is, I do wish they would 
> give you an option to pay by the month.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2024, at 12:36 PM, Arnold Schmidt <als5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I agree that $60 a year is a bit much, but I think people are going to be 
>> surprised and disappointed at what they can get for alternatives. I admit 
>> that I have yet to try Dolphin Easy Reader and the Bookshare reader for 
>> myself, but reading the reviews are not encouraging. It is one thing if a 
>> few reviewers don't like an app,  another when only a few reviews say an app 
>> is good.  There just aren't that many daisy readers out there. I wish 
>> Bookshare would bring back the reader they had years ago. It was a good 
>> reader, for a time it actually was better than Voice Dream. But then, Voice 
>> Dream got better, I got it, and Bookshare dropped their reader of that time. 
>> Voice Dream does a lot of things really well.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2024, at 12:16 PM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
>> 
>> They're going to switch to a subscription model for everyone and we either 
>> like it and pay or don't.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 11:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Making everyone pay for voice dream
>> 
>> I agree $20 I might go that.  Even that is a might.  I just don't use it 
>> enough.  I'm not against paying for apps.  I subscribe to weather apps and 
>> parcel.  So clearly I'm not against app subscriptions.  This is again is 
>> more than 50% of the cost of a screen reader.  That needs to be pointed out 
>> to them.  Again more than 50% of the cost of a screen reader.  That reads my 
>> computer screen to me and allows me to use my computer.  If the company 
>> thinks people will pay more than 50% of a screen reader subscription they 
>> truly are nuts.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Ron 
>> Canazzi
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 11:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Making everyone pay for voice dream
>> 
>> Hi Group,
>> 
>> I  would be willing to pay up to twenty dollars yearly, but this is 
>> ridiculous. I could afford it, but it is still way too high for an app on an 
>> Apple device. As mentioned before, the average price of most apps usable 
>> with IOS devices is between five and ten dollars US.  Allowing for the 
>> smaller market, I could easily pay double yearly, but not sextuplet!
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 3/26/2024 3:49 AM, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> They aren't considering that a large number of blind people can't afford 
>>> $60 a year.  They aren't also considering that a large number of blind 
>>> people aren't able to find jobs in the USA.    More over if it were more 
>>> reasonably priced maybe and it’s a big maybe.  It would be a big maybe 
>>> because the only reason they would lower the price is they terribly 
>>> misjudged the market.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
>>> regina alvarado
>>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 4:17 PM
>>> To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Making everyone pay for voice dream
>>> 
>>> Just received a message voice dream is going to cost 59 dollars a year now. 
>>> A pet peeve of mine is everything requires a subscription. I see nothing in 
>>> there reasons for this that affects me. So, nice I had it for so long. It 
>>> was a wonderful app, but I am done with it. As with MBraille I was one of 
>>> the first to buy it for I think 5 dollars. Makes me want to cry to lose it, 
>>> but much more important places to put my money. On Social Security with a 
>>> guide dog and so guess it goes away. Still want to cry after all the books 
>>> from Bookshare it has read to me.
>>> 
>>> Reggie Alvarado
>>> 
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