Ah, thanks for the link. I've included Silverlight stats, too, for completeness. If somebody knows about QuickTime stats, that would be another good one to add, I guess.
Cheers, Silvia. On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Jeroen Wijering <jer...@longtailvideo.com> wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > >> I've also just added a section with the stats that the Adobe Flash >> player exposes. > > Great. Perhaps Silverlight stats might be of use too - though they're fairly > similar: > > http://learn.iis.net/page.aspx/582/advanced-logging-for-iis-70---client-logging/ > >> Apart from the statistics that are not currently available from the >> HTML5 player, there are stats that are already available, such as >> currentSrc, currentTime, and all the events which can be turned into >> hooks for measurement. > > Yes, the network and ready states are very useful to determine if clients are > stalling for buffering etc. > >> I think the page now has a lot of analysis of currently used stats - >> probably a sufficient amount. All the video publishing sites likely >> just use a subpart of the ones that Adobe Flash exposes in their >> analytics. > > Especially all the separate A/V bytecounts are overkill IMO. > > One useful metric I didn't list for JW Player but is very nice is Flash's > "isLive" property. > > Kind regards, > > Jeroen > > > > >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:52 AM, Mark Watson <wats...@netflix.com> wrote: >>> All, >>> >>> I added some material to the wiki page based on our experience here at >>> Netflix and based on the metrics defined in MPEG DASH for adaptive >>> streaming. I'd love to here what people think. >>> >>> Statistics about presentation/rendering seem to be covered, but what should >>> also be considered are network performance statistics, which become >>> increasingly difficult to collect from the server when sessions are making >>> use of multiple servers, possibly across multiple CDNs. >>> >>> Another aspect important for performance management is error reporting. >>> Some thoughts on that on the page. >>> >>> ...Mark >>> >>> On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Chris Pearce <ch...@pearce.org.nz> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 1/04/2011 12:22 p.m., Steve Lacey wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Chris - in the mozilla stats, I agree on the need for a frame count of >>>>>> frames that actually make it the the screen, but am interested in why we >>>>>> need both presented and painted? Wouldn't just a simple 'presented' (i.e. >>>>>> presented to the user) suffice? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> We distinguish between "painted" and "presented" so we have a measure of >>>>> the latency in our rendering pipeline. It's more for our benefit as >>>>> browser >>>>> developers than for web developers. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, just to be clear, we don't necessarily think that everything in our >>>> stats API should be standardized. We should wait and see what authors >>>> actually use. >>>> >>>> Rob >>>> -- >>>> "Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for >>>> they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures >>>> every day to see if what Paul said was true." [Acts 17:11] >>>> >>> >>> > >