On 07/25/2017 02:42 PM, Qebui Nehebkau wrote:
On 25 July 2017 at 17:32, Michael A. Peters <mpet...@domblogger.net> wrote:

Nor does his assumption that I am "new" to the web somehow disqualify me
from making suggestions with current use cases that could reduce the bloat
of traffic.


Oh, then I think you misunderstood his statement. As I read it, "spend more
time working with the web you have before trying to change it" was a
suggestion to look for a way to do what you want with current technology,
not an argument that you don't have enough web experience. "Spend more
time" on this particular project, not in general.


I have a way to do what I want with current technology.

I can detect bots based upon user agent and only send the JSON-LD when I do so.

However there are some things that may be of use to a browser with accessibility functions, such as declarations regarding whether or not a page (or resource on a page) has flashing content or has simulated motion. So there are legitimate reasons why an end user client may want the JSON-LD data before rendering a page.

Just like the accept header for WebP, an accept header for JSON-LD could solve this problem. Bots and non-bot users agents that want it send it. Webmasters who understand people in undeveloped countries benefit from non-bloated paged can then choose to only send the JSON-LD in their pages when it is wanted.

Much better to implement this now when JSON-LD is still relatively young.

Whether JSON-LD is the best way to add structured data to a page probably depends upon a lot of different factors, that's a different discussion. But it is being used. That's the discussion, reducing the drawbacks of bloated content for clients that ignore it anyway.

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