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TASK DESCRIPTION Punjabi is written in two scripts, Gurmukhi in India, and Shahmukhi in Pakistan. Wikimedia has always used `pa` for the former and `pnb` for the latter. However, the way this is set up now, `pnb` is labeled in English as "Western Punjabi" while `pa` is labeled as simply "Punjabi." This is a problem for a few reasons: - The majority of Punjabi speakers live in Pakistan and use Shahmukhi if they write in the language. Using the label "Punjabi" unqualified for the orthographic variant that fewer native language speakers can read seems like an unreasonable bias. - The original request and creation of Shahmukhi Wikipedia did not involve calling it "Western Punjabi"; see for example https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T7010 - There are dialect variations in the Punjabi language which can roughly be split across a west/east axis, but this is *not* coincident with the present day border of India and Pakistan. The Gurmukhi script now used in India was refined and standardized in part of Western Punjab which would now be in Pakistan. As a result, the Gurmukhi script includes provisions for characters which represent pronunciations which are only still commonly used in the far west/south of Punjab (now in Pakistan). ਵੰਞਣਾ represents a word associated with western dialects of Punjabi, and with Saraiki, which cannot be written phonetically in Shahmukhi. Under the implication that these language labels have to do with regions rather than writing systems, this word would be interpreted as being part of "eastern Punjabi," which is not correct. - When adding monolingual text properties to Wikidata items, I keep having to add a "writing system" qualifier to each `pa` and `pnb` statement even though these language codes already de facto represent writing systems, because their labels do not match their use. Using "Punjabi Gurmukhi" for `pa` and "Punjabi Shahmukhi" for `pnb` would offer more clarity on what these codes actually represent, and would be more fair with respect to the fact that Punjabi written in Gurmukhi is not "default" Punjabi. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T314512 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: mrephabricator Cc: mrephabricator, LennardHofmann, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Dcljr, jeblad, Mbch331, Jay8g
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