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In T317193#8313914 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T317193#8313914>, @jhsoby wrote: > I am actually surprised that `nd` and `nr` aren't already in Names.php – I thought all ISO 639-1 codes (two-letter codes) were there, but that was apparently an incorrect assumption. No, not all two-letter codes are there. In practice, these two languages are among the very few that are still not there, and that's one of the reasons why I'd really love to have translators into them. > @Amire80 Would it be problematic to add them there even if they haven't completed the necessary localization? Yes, it's problematic, for two reasons: 1. Names.php is for languages in which there is some localization. 2. I don't have reliable information about the autonyms. In language-data (not Names.php) we already have the following: nd: [Latn, [AF], siNdebele saseNyakatho] nr: [Latn, [AF], isiNdebele seSewula] I added these two lines years ago based on the English Wikipedia. I wouldn't do it today because I'm not sure that they are correct: the English Wikipedia didn't have reliable sources for these autonyms then, and one of them (nd) changed to "isiNdebele saseNyakatho", and it still doesn't cite a source. So that's the problem with reliability, but they also have to be **distinct**. "Ndebele" by itself is //probably// written as "isiNdebele" in each of them, so another word is needed for both to distinguish them in a list of languages. A reliable source would be dictionaries or grammar books, for **each** language. (Also, the country name is sometimes added in parentheses, but I really dislike this solution. Country names change surprisingly often.) Not having autonyms is not a blocker for adding them to Wikidata, but if anyone seriously wants to add lexemes in these languages, then I'd also like to get reliable information about autonyms from that p person :) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T317193 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: AGutman-WMF, Amire80 Cc: jhsoby, Amire80, Mahir256, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, AGutman-WMF, Keet10, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, JKieserman, DMartin-WMF, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, Aseleste, gengh, Nikolay_Komarov, GrounderUK, maantietaja, AndrewEells, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, YULdigitalpreservation, LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Nikki, Verdy_p, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, ori
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