Hi all, what I was saying was that instead of seeing this as an issue of Afrikaans being discriminated against, it should be seen as careless communication/ignorance on the part of Moleskine. We would all gladly support them if they announced that their mission was to boost marginalised languages (those with small wikis/few contributors). However,they expressed it by saying they want to support indigenous languages, with an assumption that these two categories overlap.
However Afrikaans is an exception, since it isn't marginalised. They failed to take that fact into consideration, and hence they raised false expectations. Then, adding insult to injury, they tried to explain by saying Afrikaans is not indigenous, rather than that it's not marginalised. So we need to advise them to be more careful. On a personal note, let me remind board members that we have previously discussed the issue of "Afrikaaps" being the marginalised side of Afrikaans. After I shared a radio interview with you, I was mandated to contact the panelists, which I did, but without them taking up the offer of a workshop. More recently UWC has published the first dictionary of Afrikaaps, so perhaps someone there might be interested in dialogue. Regards, On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 8:15 AM Bobby Shabangu <bobbyshaba...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Shupai, > > Kindly remind me what resolution did we take on the issue Deon is raising. > I remember him raising that he applied for the Wikimedian in Residence > position and he made a follow up why he was not selected as a candidate but > instead he was informed they don't recognize Afrikaans, @Deon correct me if > I'm wrong here! > > I think I said I was going to write a letter to chastise them for such > kind of harsh response since Rossouw an Afrikaans speaker played a pivotal > role in this project. And I remember Michael speaking but my internet went > down I don't remember how we finally said we were gonna move forward with > this issue? Kindly remind me so that I respond immediately. > > Best, > Bobby Shabangu > > On Wed, 22 Sept 2021 at 08:00, <deon.st...@ntnis.co.za> wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> The very same people that does not recognise Afrikaans as an indigenous >> language... >> >> Deon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bobby Shabangu <bobbyshaba...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Woensdag 22 September 2021 02:25 >> To: Tochi Precious <tochiprecio...@gmail.com>; WikimediaZA List >> <wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org>; Shupai Mchuchu < >> shu...@wikimedia.org.za>; >> Ngonidzashe Chipunza <chipunz...@gmail.com> >> Subject: [Wikimedia ZA] Re: Kind request for support for AfroCuration >> South >> Africa event >> >> Dear Tochi, >> >> Thanks for reaching out, we already know about this project from a >> presentation made by Papa some couple of months back. Shupai our >> administrator will let you know there are more volunteers from the Chapter >> and community who would like to take part here. >> >> @Shupai Mchuchu <shu...@wikimedia.org.za> kindly note these dates and >> send >> me a reminder 2 days before it takes place. Also kindly send this to our >> community and board to find out if there aren't any volunteers who would >> want to take part and volunteer with their time in this project. I'll >> certainly be there. >> >> Best regards, >> Bobby Shabangu >> >> On Tue, 21 Sept 2021 at 16:59, Tochi Precious <tochiprecio...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Hello Bobby, my name is [[User: Tochiprecious]]. I'm one of the >> > founding members of @wikimediaigbo and also a Wikipedian in Residence >> > at Moleskine Foundation working on the WikiAfrica Education project. >> > >> > I pioneered the last AfroCuration on 4th and 5th September in >> > Mozambique where I worked with the WMF Language Team to get the >> > Makhuwa language Wikipedia into the incubator. We had over 70 >> > participants and have created over 120 articles since then. >> > >> > My next program is in S.A, with Constitution Hill and Harambee on 26th >> > and 27th of October and I would like to ask for your assistance as a >> > User Group to help train new editors to edit your language Wikipedia, >> > and also mentor them to become part of your user group and also >> > knowledge contributors in your language on Wiki. >> > >> > Also, I would like to find out the languages that the S.A User Group >> > edits Wiki in. >> > >> > I'll be looking forward to hearing from you soon. >> > >> > Thanks a lot >> > Tochi >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaZA mailing list -- wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org To >> unsubscribe >> send an email to wikimediaza-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@%(host_name)s >> _______________________________________________ >> WikimediaZA mailing list -- wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wikimediaza-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@%(host_name)s >> > -- Michael Graaf, M.Phil (UCT) Researcher, Editor & Community Informatics Practitioner Mob +27795487242 WhatsApp/ Signal/ Telegram +27647754342 ORCID 0000-0002-1951-5739 _______________________________________________ WikimediaZA mailing list -- wikimediaza@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe send an email to wikimediaza-le...@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe, send an email to %(real_name)s-unsubscribe@%(host_name)s
