On that note, Jonathan, do you have SQL queries that return the same
results as the Wikimetrics reports?  I tried writing my own for bytes
added, but it's pretty janky and takes forever to return anything in
Quarry.  Would you share your wisdom with a poor wayward amateur?


On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Amanda Bittaker <abitta...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Sweet, thanks Jonathan.  I added a "Heartbreak" token, because at this
> point I am really far too emotionally attached to Wikimetrics.
>
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Jonathan Morgan <jmor...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Amanda,
>>
>> Here's a ticket you can upvote: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87596
>>
>> I added a link to this thread to the task. I also added an "Evil Spooky
>> Haunted Tree" token to the task. Because... well it just felt like the
>> right thing to do.
>>
>> - J
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Dan Andreescu <dandree...@wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I can't find a specific ticket, Nuria may know of one.  In general, this
>>> is the project that LabsDB tickets are tagged with:
>>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wikimedia-labs-infrastructure/
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Amanda Bittaker <
>>> abitta...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good morning Dan,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks very much for the explanation.  Is there a Phabricator task we
>>>> can upvote (award a token?) to make this issue more visible?
>>>>
>>>> As always, we really appreciate your help with this.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Amanda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Dan Andreescu <
>>>> dandree...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the trouble, Amanda.  The problem is solely with the
>>>>> underlying database, which we don't maintain.  It's a sanitized replica of
>>>>> all the changes being made to all the wikis so it's a fairly complicated
>>>>> piece of infrastructure that sometimes has problems.  The folks who
>>>>> maintain it are aware of the issues, but we'll continue representing them
>>>>> until they're solved.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Amanda Bittaker <
>>>>> abitta...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oop, thanks for the ping, Nuria.  Wikimetrics seems to be working
>>>>>> better now.  I still get failures, especially when running three or four
>>>>>> reports in one batch, but the reports work if you rerun them (sometimes a
>>>>>> couple times.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm still getting "PENDING"s that turn into "FAILURE"s sometimes,
>>>>>> which I just noticed for the first time last Thursday.  Also, sometimes 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> "FAILURE"s change position in the Current Report Inbox list, moving up or
>>>>>> down a spot.  Not sure if that helps diagnose what might be happening...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In any case, Wikimetrics is mostly functioning but seems to be having
>>>>>> recurring troubles that sometimes blow up to freeze the whole tool.  It
>>>>>> would be great to resolve the troubles before the next explosion--is 
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> anything I can do to help?  Dan H and I still have plenty of reports to
>>>>>> run, we can keep you updated on the reports ran and failure rate while 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> are fixing, if that would be useful.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Nuria Ruiz <nu...@wikimedia.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ping ....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Nuria Ruiz <nu...@wikimedia.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Amanda,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like wikimetrics was able to run automatic reports last night
>>>>>>>> w/o big issues, are your reports still failing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nuria
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Amanda Bittaker <
>>>>>>>> abitta...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alright, thanks so much for your help once again, Nuria.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If there's anything I can do or any information I can contribute,
>>>>>>>>> please don't hesitate to ping me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Nuria Ruiz <nu...@wikimedia.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DB connections in labs look to be failing, unfortunately  I think
>>>>>>>>>> besides asking for help on the labs list there is not much we can do 
>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>> I will start a thread on this regard.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nuria
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Amanda Bittaker <
>>>>>>>>>> abitta...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for the quick response, Nuria.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I ran the exact same reports on the same cohort as one of the
>>>>>>>>>>> last batches that were failing.  Last time 2/4 of the reports 
>>>>>>>>>>> failed, when
>>>>>>>>>>> I reran the individually they succeeded.  (But they don't always, I 
>>>>>>>>>>> reran
>>>>>>>>>>> one report 3 times this morning before it worked.)   This time, my 
>>>>>>>>>>> failure
>>>>>>>>>>> rate got worse:  4/4 failed, although they said "PENDING" for a few 
>>>>>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>>> first, which is new.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is that useful information?  Please do let me know what else I
>>>>>>>>>>> can do to help solve this.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks again,
>>>>>>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Jonathan Morgan <
>>>>>>>>>>> jmor...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Nuria!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Nuria Ruiz <
>>>>>>>>>>>> nu...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so a cohort + report to repro will be most useful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Translation:* try to run the exact same reports on the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> cohort again, to see if the same metrics fail. Let us know what 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you find. ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Same goes for anyone else who experiences these issues: the
>>>>>>>>>>>> more details we (users) can provide the engineers, the more 
>>>>>>>>>>>> effective they
>>>>>>>>>>>> can be at diagnosing and addressing the problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> - J
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *for anyone who is not 100% familiar with that hip, new
>>>>>>>>>>>> software engineering lingo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nuria
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Dan Andreescu <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dandree...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recently there was a restart of the labsdb cluster.  I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry but I don't have time to check on it, but I bet that's the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm off tomorrow unfortunately but I'll try to check tomorrow 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> night :(  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope someone else beats me to it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Jonathan Morgan <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmor...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ping Kevin and Dan A.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Amanda, I've had some problems with report failures
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recently when I ran a few test cohorts. On the same cohort, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I ran
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple concurrent reports (say, bytes added, edits, and pages 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some would fail and others succeed. It wasn't clear what the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue was.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - J
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Amanda Bittaker <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abitta...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am getting failures again, both when uploading cohorts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and running reports.  Strangely, it seems the more reports you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in one batch the less likely it is any report will succeed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is anyone else having these problems again?  Wonderful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Analytics people, could you please work your magic again?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community Research Lead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wikimedia Foundation
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