Brion Vibber wrote: >I would advise you generally to treat wikitech-l like a professional >workspace, which it is for those of us who are employees of WMF or WMDE.
I think there's a big schism that you're pointing to here: why do you think it's appropriate for you or anyone else to impose your particular U.S. workplace standards on a global community of volunteers? For many users, wikitech-l, Phabricator, and other venues are specifically not workplaces, they're places for technical work on hobby projects. >If your corporate HR department would frown at you making a statement >about people's character or motivations with derogatory language, think >twice about it. Treat people with respect. Sure, treat people with respect. As a colleague of Greg Varnum, have you privately messaged him to let him know that closing valid tasks is inappropriate? Have you told him that gaslighting users into thinking that an obvious bug is an intentional design choice is unacceptable behavior? Have you discussed with Greg V. that un-assigning yourself from a task and attempting to orphan it is bad practice? Or are you simply focused on trying to shame and silence volunteers who are critical of Wikimedia Foundation Inc. employees? Regarding the word fuck generally, I've been here long enough to remember commits such as <https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commit/32936ec8>. There are also many commits and tasks that use similar language. As the English Wiktionary notes, "what the fuck" is a common interjection: <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/what_the_fuck#Interjection>. I do not think it's a phrase that should be commonly used on Phabricator, but at times it can be appropriate, _as your code commit from 2008 notes_, to underscore the severity of a particular issue. What Greg did was really bad and is compounded, in my opinion, by his continued silence and the lack of resolution to the issue of German text appearing on an English landing page. Saying what Greg V. did was confusing and bad, even forcefully, is not the real issue here. For what it's worth, here's Daniel using the same language in 2016: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110728#2227182>. And MatmaRex using the same language in the same year: <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130478>. A quick search of Phabricator for "what the fuck", "fuck", or "wtf" shows that none of them are rare. MZMcBride _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
