If you "bridge" wireless to wired, we have issues as most of our buildings are routed (distributed model) and it breaks down the mobility/roaming flexibility we get by backhauling our APs to central controllers and using common network infrastructure across campus.
There are pros and cons to each, but our "mobility" is a selling point, particularly as we expand to outdoor coverage. We have at least one documented survey response complaining about "When I go from my dorm room to class in the morning, my Pandora keeps interrupting flipping from WiFi to 3G/4G..." Geez... and it took us years to get WiFi in the residence halls... Jeff On 10/10/2013 3:29 PM, Lee H Badman wrote: > > Same same here.... > > > > *From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Scott Allen > *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:21 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, > supporting Bonjour, etc... > > > > I am working with Apple and our bookstore to set up a an Airport > specifically to support the Tune&Play demo station but that's just for > the immediate area and not for general use. > > -Scott > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu > <mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> wrote: > > I'm still seeing a lot of potential drawbacks to this, despite Cisco > going above and beyond to accommodate Apple's shame. I also have to > wonder- is anyone willingly doing what we all know is also > undesirable- popping up one-off topologies for isolated AppleTV and > AirPrint (and Chromecast for that matter), outside of the controller > environment, and just living with the limits and interference? > > > > Fess up now, you're among friends. J > > > > -Lee > > > > *From:*The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > [mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Albano > *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:47 PM > *To:* WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > *Subject:* Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, > supporting Bonjour, etc... > > > > I am also running 7.5, utilizing the mDNS AP feature. This allows the > devices (AppleTV's) to be plugged into a wired connection. Much less > channel util. when screen-sharing is only going over Wireless in one > direction. It works well. The simple guide is here: > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/bonjour/7.5/Bonjour_Gateway_Phase-2_WLC_software_release_7.5.html#wp44530 > > > > You can designate an mDNS ap at the distribution layer, or choose an > ap in ea. building, if your need crosses distribution routers. > > > > Mike > > > > -----The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> wrote: ----- > > To: WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU> > From: Lee H Badman <lhbad...@syr.edu <mailto:lhbad...@syr.edu>> > Sent by: The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv > <WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU > <mailto:WIRELESS-LAN@LISTSERV.EDUCAUSE.EDU>> > Date: 10/10/2013 08:10AM > Subject: Re: [WIRELESS-LAN] For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, > supporting Bonjour, etc... > > Hi Rick- > > > > Thanks for the response. > > > > I guess I knew Prime wasn't involved in Bonjour per se- I should have > asked the question with more clarity. Wondering if PI was helping in > any way with the management of zones, etc, as given our size we could > have lots of them. > > > > If you don't mind sharing (could do a call if you'd rather), what is > your typical "bring a Bonjour zone to life scenario"? Someone says > they want to use AirPlay or AppleTV where you don't yet have a zone, > and then...? Are you seeing cases where it's being relied on for > classroom use, has a hiccup, and becomes an emergency response because > instruction is disrupted? And which version of Cisco's cookbook are > you using- the one with Broadcast enabled on the WLAN or the one with > Unicast? > > > > > > Again, Thank you. > > > > > > -Lee > > > > > > *From:*Rick Coloccia, Jr. [mailto:coloc...@geneseo.edu] > *Sent:* Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:02 AM > *To:* The EDUCAUSE Wireless Issues Constituent Group Listserv; Lee H > Badman > *Subject:* Re: For those of you on Cisco code 7.5, supporting Bonjour, > etc... > > > > Bonjour first comes to the party with 7.4. I had a long talk with the > Cisco people (many hours over several days inside a tac case regarding > bonjour and print servers) about the differences between 7.4 and 7.5 > with regard to Bonjour. 7.5 introduces a "zone" concept, where only > certain Bonjour sources are repeated to certain place. The core > functionality is the same, though, between 7.4 and 7.5. If you go to > 7.5, you can't go to prime 2, you'll need to wait for prime 2.1. > > Now, all that said, we're running 7.4.110.0, with almost 900 APs on 7 > controllers, and Bonjour is working. Yep. I wrote that. Apple tvs > and printers "just show up." Users are happy. Yep. I wrote that, too. > > Prime isn't involved at all in Bounjour, not in the very least. > > Feel free to shoot questions over. > > -Rick > > > On 10/10/2013 10:54 AM, Lee H Badman wrote: > > I have heard tangentially that 7.5 helps the cause of supporting > AppleTVs better than last couple of versions (no discredit to > Cisco for trying to solve Apple's shortcomings). Is there anyone > running 7.5 on a big, prod WLAN that can say they are having an > acceptable, low-support/low-confusion-for-users experience with > lots of Apple Bonjour-dependent devices in use? Is PI helping with > this in any way? > > > > Just trying to get a read before we go to 7.5. > > > > (I am aware of Bonjour gateways and what other vendors are doing, > hoping to keep answers limited to Cisco 7.5) > > > > Thanks very much- > > > > Lee Badman > > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this > EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at > http://www.educause.edu/groups/. > > > ********** Participation and subscription information for this EDUCAUSE Constituent Group discussion list can be found at http://www.educause.edu/groups/.
