Hi Julien,

On 5/1/2024 4:13 AM, Julien Grall wrote:
Hi Henry,

On 30/04/2024 04:50, Henry Wang wrote:
On 4/25/2024 10:28 PM, Julien Grall wrote:
Thanks for your feeedback. After checking the b8577547236f commit message I think I now understand your point. Do you have any suggestion about how can I properly add the support to route/remove the IRQ to running domains? Thanks.

I spent some time going through the GIC/vGIC code and had some discussions with Stefano and Stewart during the last couple of days, let me see if I can describe the use case properly now to continue the discussion:

We have some use cases that requires assigning devices to domains after domain boot time. For example, suppose there is an FPGA on the board which can simulate a device, and the bitstream for the FPGA is provided and programmed after domain boot. So we need a way to assign the device to the running domain. This series tries to implement this use case by using device tree overlay - users can firstly add the overlay to Xen dtb, assign the device in the overlay to a domain by the xl command, then apply the overlay to Linux.

Thanks for the description! This helps to understand your goal :).

Thank you very much for spending your time on discussing this and provide these valuable comments!


I haven't really look at that code in quite a while. I think we need to make sure that the virtual and physical IRQ state matches at the time we do the routing.

I am undecided on whether we want to simply prevent the action to happen or try to reset the state.

There is also the question of what to do if the guest is enabling the vIRQ before it is routed.

Sorry for bothering, would you mind elaborating a bit more about the two cases that you mentioned above? Commit b8577547236f ("xen/arm: Restrict when a physical IRQ can be routed/removed from/to a domain") only said there will be undesirable effects, so I am not sure if I understand the concerns raised above and the consequences of these two use cases.

I will try to explain them below after I answer the rest.

I am probably wrong, I think when we add the overlay, we are probably fine as the interrupt is not being used before.

What if the DT overlay is unloaded and then reloaded? Wouldn't the same interrupt be re-used? As a more generic case, this could also be a new bitstream for the FPGA.

But even if the interrupt is brand new every time for the DT overlay, you are effectively relaxing the check for every user (such as XEN_DOMCTL_bind_pt_irq). So the interrupt re-use case needs to be taken into account.

I agree. I think IIUC, with your explanation here and below, could we simplify the problem to how to properly handle the removal of the IRQ from a running guest, if we always properly remove and clean up the information when remove the IRQ from the guest? In this way, the IRQ can always be viewed as a brand new one when we add it back. Then the only corner case that we need to take care of would be...

Also since we only load the device driver after the IRQ is routed to the guest,

This is what a well-behave guest will do. However, we need to think what will happen if a guest misbehaves. I am not concerned about a guest only impacting itself, I am more concerned about the case where the rest of the system is impacted.

I am not sure the guest can enable the vIRQ before it is routed.

Xen allows the guest to enable a vIRQ even if there is no pIRQ assigned. Thanksfully, it looks like the vgic_connect_hw_irq(), in both the current and new vGIC, will return an error if we are trying to route a pIRQ to an already enabled vIRQ.

But we need to investigate all the possible scenarios to make sure that any inconsistencies between the physical state and virtual state (including the LRs) will not result to bigger problem.

The one that comes to my mind is: The physical interrupt is de-assigned from the guest before it was EOIed. In this case, the interrupt will still be in the LR with the HW bit set. This would allow the guest to EOI the interrupt even if it is routed to someone else. It is unclear what would be the impact on the other guest.

...same as this case, i.e.
test_bit(_IRQ_INPROGRESS, &desc->status) || !test_bit(_IRQ_DISABLED, &desc->status)) when we try to remove the IRQ from a running domain.

we have 3 possible states which can be read from LR for this case : active, pending, pending and active. - I don't think we can do anything about the active state, so we should return -EBUSY and reject the whole operation of removing the IRQ from running guest, and user can always retry this operation. - For the pending (and active) case, can we clear the LR and point the LR for the pending_irq to invalid?

Kind regards,
Henry


Cheers,



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