>On Die, 2012-12-11 at 02:48 -0800, stompdagg...@yahoo.com wrote: 

>> >On Die, 2012-12-11 at 01:45 -0800, stompdagg...@yahoo.com wrote: 
>> >> >On Mon, 2012-12-10 at 11:33 -0800, stompdagg...@yahoo.com wrote: 
> >>> >> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM,  <olivier.e.am...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> When starting openSuse 12.2, the X-server terminates with a
>> >> >> segmentation fault (see attached log file).
> >>> >> 
> >>> >> >The open source driver should support your card just fine.  Can
>> >> you
>> >> >> >install debugging symbols and get a proper backtrace with GDB?
> >>> >>
>> >http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/ServerDebugging
>> >> >> 
> >>> >> Alex, looking at his log, I don't see the card in the support
>> list,
>> >> >> his card is the v7700?
> >>> 
> >>> >As you can see in the lspci output, it's a 7500, which is Turks
>> >> >(Northern Islands generation) based.
>> >> 
>> >> >If the driver didn't support the card, it would bail much
>> earlier. 
>> >> 
> >>> looking at the xorg log, I see Turks only as part of the AMD Radeon
>> HD
>> >> 6700 Series, does this means that 7500 Series is part of the 6700
> >>> Series?
>> 
>> >It's complicated. :\
>> 
>> >7xx0 and 6xx0 are marketing names, which are mostly irrelevant for
>> >driver support, in contrast to code names such as Turks, Northern
>> >Islands etc.
>> 
>> I see, so maybe it is a good idea to fix the radeon output?

>Can you make a specific suggestion, or even a patch?

I can't seem to find something more specific than this scenario, 

>> if I had this problem, I'd assume that the driver doesn't supports the
>> card, this would have wasted a lot of time.

>Why would you assume that?
I think it is extremely logical to assume that because xorg's log 
contains the following line: "(II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon 
chipsets:" and is followed by a list of cards.
if the card you have is not on the list, it is logical to assume that the 
driver doesn't supports it.

> Again, if the driver doesn't support a card,
>it bails much earlier, in a totally different way. 

for you it is logical because you know your way around the code, I consider 
myself as an advanced linux user, if for me it isn't clear, why would it be 
clear to someone at lower experience level than I?
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