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and not really feeling argumentative, if you don't agree that's fine with me: http://www.bobmarley.com/life/musicalinfluences/punkyreggae/ Well, Bob was influenced by punk at least. and the show the brought the connection to light for me on pbs: "The Ramones, Patti Smith, Talking Heads and Blondie light a fuse in America that explodes in London with the cynical inner-city punk spirit of the Sex Pistols and The Clash. Sharing a sense of alienation and rebellion, they champion the Bob Marley-led reggae movement. " - http://www.pbs.org/cgi-registry/whatson/template.cgir?s=WVIZ&t=2&p=1490&c=d& d=2001-08-13 "Punk explores two late `70s musical innovations that shaped rock and roll through the next decade: punk and reggae. In New York, members of Blondie, Talking Heads, Television, and the Ramones tell how they inadvertently created the cynical, urban, stripped-down sound that became punk rock. In London, punk takes off with the Sex Pistols, and members of the Wailers and the Clash recall how Jamaican reggae, another musical form of rebellion, crossed international boundaries, deeply influencing punk and pop rock. " http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/rocknroll/rnrtv.html "By combining a punk attitude with the rhythms of reggae - a musical import from Jamaica popularized by Bob Marley - bands like the Police, the Pretenders and Elvis Costello and the Attractions created a hybrid that proved both infectious and commercially acceptable in a way that hardcore punk was not." http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/rocknroll/rnrpunk.html "The Sex Pistols had broken up the previous year and the Clash were considered the standard bearers of Punk. The concerts were the scathing attacks of fury that had earned the group its reputation as a high energy concert draw. The band returned to the UK after the tour to begin writing for their new album to be produced by Guy Stevens who had produced the Clash's demos for Polygram in 1977. So much material had been recorded that the album was set to be a double. ("Time is Tight" a Booker T cover the band had been playing since 1977 was recorded for the LP but was not included). The title song was released in advance of the album (the album's working title was the New Testament) with the flip side "Armagideon Time". That song hadbeen a reggae hit for Jamaican singer Wille Williams in 1978, but the Clash's version was so far superior to the original it has since become to be associated with the band as their song. " http://members.aol.com/secretsun3/history.html Roxane by the police came out in 1978, well before the 1988 date you cite. Then there's always "regatta de blanc" in 1979, "walking on the moon." I guess it really does all come down to one's definition of punk after all........but I think there is enough evidence of cross-polination. and no, I am not iggy pop. jim http://www.assasins.ner > Somebody wrote: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Well, Back in the day Detroit had a largish punk scene. One of punks primary > influences was Jamaican reggae & dubb. Just had to bring it all back full > circle. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Do you have any evidence of this? Can you support this claim? Are you Iggy > Pop? The only influence Dub and Reggae may have had on punk is the message > they tried to get across. Ska was directly influenced by the rhythms and > sounds of Dub and Reggae as is apparent in the music, however Ska-punk cross > pollination really didn't happen until about '88 when Operation Ivy hit the > scene. Unless you consider The Specials and The English Beat 'punk', I'd > really like to know where you got this idea. > > Cheers > todd > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]