Talking about techno-related books... just begun reading Laurent Garnier's "Electrochoc", very promising ! I don't know if it has already been translated from French though... but even if you don't read French, you can at least find his excellent playlists here : http://www.pedrobroadcast.com/
Gwendal > -----Original Message----- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 > 7:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; robin Subject: RE: (313) Book: G > eneration Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno and Rave Culture Coming back to this late. > > But basically I agree with the below statement it clarifies what I was > trying to say earlier. The book was well written and informative. I > found out a lot about ecstacy that I didn't know and a lot about how > some sub-genres got started. I just couldn't stomach his ideas and > theories on our music. But honestly I have problems with over > theorizing > music in general so I may be biased. :) > > This has been a good discussion. > > > Ja'Maul Redmond > > PERKINS & WILL > > 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:44 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Redmond, Ja'Maul; robin > Subject: RE: (313) Book: Generation Ecstasy : Into the World of Techno > and Rave Culture > > > Oh, I completely agree that Reynolds had an agenda. And like I said, I > basically disagreed with every conclusion he came to. > > BUT...while his thesis may have been severly flawed, the research that > he presents (ie- the history of ecstacy culture) is still > compelling and > well written. This is all sounding too scientific. Its music. And you > can take the exact same story of ecstacy culture and come to > completely > different conclusions. > > here's an interview with Reynolds that helps explain where he's coming > from: http://www.space-age-bachelor.com/features/99/reynolds.htm > he talks extensively about "Energy Flash" > > here's a piece where Reynolds first seems to develope his theories on > Detroit techno vs hardcore: > http://www.epidemik.com/features/articles/hardcore_article.htm > > > and finally- a rather extensive page on Reynolds that finds him > "rediscovering house" with the Mille Plateux guys: > http://www.jahsonic.com/SimonReynolds.html > > > Everyone's music collection is based around 'phases'. > Reynolds just does > an excellent job capturing his phases in print. Don't diss because he > went through some phases that you didn't. > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >To immediately address Mr. Knight's concerns, I blieve the > book was > > >first published around 97-98, which is when big beat was a new and > > >exciting sound. And judging from where electronic music went after > > >big beat in terms of mass appeal, seems as though Mr. > Reynolds wasn;t > > > >that far off. > > > > >Granted- Big Beat now seems trivial, but you can't deny the > > >importance of the Chemical Brothers and Norman Cook in bringing > > >electronic music to a higher level of awareness to the public. A > > >level that hasn't been topped since. > > > > Ah this is true... > > However, I'd like to know how many people who went to all > the Chemical > > > Bros. and Fatboy Slim shows back in the heyday of Big Beat > are still > > listening to this music? It seems to be more of a "flash and it's > > over" movement as opposed > > to the steady life of techno and house. > > So - after the party was going for a few years how many people were > already > > heading > > for the door? Now the White Stripes are "saving rock 'n roll" > > > > The mass appeal didn't last in either case of Hardcore or Big Beat. > > I'd like to see a new addition with some kind of update on his > > thoughts or maybe "Generation Ecstasy part deux - everyone back to > > mine" > > > > I know that the Chems and Fatboy Slim were/are immensely > popular but > > they had to cop rock 'n' roll images to get there - which > does nothing > > > for any music producer > > who doesn't want to sell themselves like that. I'd argue > that Big Beat > > brought > > little attention to any other genre that wasn't presented > as a circus. > > Plus, how can someone write a book saying that one subgenre is going > to > > save the entire > > world of electronic music and then turn around and slag off other > > subgenres? > > I think he does/did a disservice to all electronic music by > leaning so > hard > > against some > > very important styles and artists. Aphex Twin did quite a > bit bringing > > millions of people > > into electronic music and his influences in music > production are heard > a > > lot more today than > > any Big Beat track. > > > > Reynolds had an agenda. > > > > MEK > > > > > > > > > > >
