i agree ken.  i just joined a few weeks ago and this is practically all i've 
seen, but i'm not going to unsub yet because i haven't had a chance to learn 
and discuss what i came here for.

i'd say, if people start sh!t like that and don't go away (and aren't removed 
from the list), then counter their posts with brand new topics about something 
interesting to you.  hopefully this will drown out the bad with good and keep 
the good folks around.


d.



>It's unfortunate that a few should occasionally spoil it for many.
>
>On the other hand, I would suggest a little perspective.
>
>Things are usually sedate, reasonable, and dare I say it, they can be on
>relatively rare occasions, a little boring round here.
>
>There is a happy medium - I'm not going to call it, but I'm sure there
>is one.
>
>You could even suggest that the solution, when this sort of things
>happens is *not* to unsubscribe, but rather to claim the list for one's
>own. Be the voice of reason or overwhelm those who sometimes go off at a
>negative tangent, with communications which have a positive tone.
>
>Ken
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 06 September 2006 09:43
>To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma
>Cc: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; kent williams; list 313
>Subject: Re: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
>
>that's a terrible shame. we are losing some important people who are,
>in my opinion, vital to the quality of this list. if these people
>leave, then the list will further decline. thinks it's time that
>lurkers, like myself, should let their feelings be known. this list
>has, and still can, be a rewarding muscial source. don't know what's
>happened the last couple of weeks. it has to be just a blip. and they
>do seem to happen every couple of years  . . . . . and usually involve
>richie hawtin or race. amazing that technology should cause such
>vitriol, but there you go.
>
>lets get things back on track!
>
>On 9/6/06, Klaas-Jan Jongsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yeah same here, i have had it with the constant name calling, insults
>> and people who's only purpose is to stir up this list. To bad because
>> i have always liked 313 because of its politeness compared to other
>> mailinglists.
>>
>> KJ
>> ---
>> Eevo Lute Muzique
>> http://www.eevolute.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6-sep-2006, at 9:49, Jason Brunton wrote:
>>
>> > To be honest John, me too- I'm taking a break after 7  years- might
>> > come back in a few months to see if things have gotten any better
>> > but frankly I doubt it
>> >
>> > bye
>> >
>> > Jason
>> >
>> >
>> > On 6 Sep 2006, at 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> >> I agree Kent, but it will be too late for me. I'm outahere.
>> >>
>> >> If anyone needs to contact me you can reach me at
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Don't send mails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't used that
>> >> mailbox in ages due to spam.
>> >>
>> >> Take care everybody,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
>> >>> Van: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> Verzonden: woensdag, september 6, 2006 12:48 AM
>> >>> Aan: 'list 313'
>> >>> Onderwerp: (313) Namecalling is Bullsh!t
>> >>>
>> >>> ... and it should stop.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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