True. I'm pretty sure we're on the same page. k
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 12:07 PM To: Stoddard, Kamal Subject: RE: (313) detroit party flyers yeah, I agree with that I included the bosses as part of the audience - they're the first audience as the art represents them they are generally the most conservative (and scared) MEK "Stoddard, Kamal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/11/2008 11:00:37 AM: > Anyone across the pond wouldn't see an iota of the real talent in the us > design community. The reason for that is exceedingly simple. > > The best don't get paid by companies/media that get shxt over there. > > The best of American design has been thriving in small magazines and art > scenes all over the country. And some who have dooooope skills, from > flyer design to total corporate rebranding, never get the jobs to flex > it (my boy Zheno can't be touched (zheno.com) even though he probably > hates everything on his site by now). This is not due to the average > audience, but rather the average creative director being afraid to upset > the conservative bosses. I know it may not seem this way given the wide > angle view from there, but the status quo in America is pretty down for > whatever when they're comfy. It's a few cats who keep them scared to > minimize resistance to their conservative bs that set the tone. If the > general pop was as conservative as many make out, there'd be no need for > the fear show, we'd just agree. Americans aren't generally conservative, > they're generally scared. And that fear is carefully managed and > disseminated (by the same media we turn to to judge the state American > design?) so, in my opinion not entirely their fault. (Sorry huge > tangent) > > k > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:37 AM > To: Robert Taylor > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; /0 > Subject: RE: (313) detroit party flyers > > I agree. My guess is because of the general audience in the US tends to > be > more conservative in so many different ways. > > MEK > >