Also, in a professional creative context.

Even regardless of the employer/employee relationship, clients are
notorious for refusing to dislodge their dicks from your well thought
out idea. Alot of the American design in question might have had
vastly superior concepts behind it than what was actually executed,
but unchecked egos diluted the product.

Seen it a million times. You stop bothering to think up cool stuff at
some point.

On Jan 11, 2008 11:08 AM, Thor Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah, you beat me to it.
>
> What creatives get paid in the US doesn't balance with what's asked of
> them. Supposedly this is different in other countries. The result of
> undervaluing creative and visual work is pretty obvious. The designers
> get demoralized and stop caring, and just mechanically shove jobs
> through the pipelines. You get a lot of work that is functional and
> not much else. This... APPEARS to be almost universally true. Some
> exceptions to the rule would include Apple Inc.... and whoever is
> doing the motion graphics and animation on Flight of the Conchords.
>
> It's not a lack of capability. American artists didn't suddenly start
> sucking. The US has a major leadership problem. Not just in politics
> but in the professional world as well.
>
> My 2c.
>
>
> On Jan 11, 2008 11:00 AM, Stoddard, Kamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyone across the pond wouldn't see an iota of the real talent in the us
> > design community. The reason for that is exceedingly simple.
> >
> > The best don't get paid by companies/media that get shxt over there.
> >
> >
>

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