its just that they've defeated the song structure through all of this micro-DJing BS.

30 seconds into the set, your journey is over.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Kowalsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[313]" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup


Saw him playing in my city last wednesday. His set was pretty
tasteless, flavourless. My impression was just like that: a bunch of
loops scrambled over and over, with a crescendo to make the crowd
scream from time to time.
It seems that a lot of djs, or producers, are showing up in the stage
the capabilities of digital blending, the knob thrill just for the
sake of it. Well, techno always had a thing about the process, not
focusing on a begining or an end, but this tasteless knob thrill
usually turns into a kid play, something like "i'm having fun playing
with my lego blocks, aren't you?". Well, it's not really that fun just
watch someone else playing lego, cause there's no space for you to get
in – the expression of the music was suposed to do that, bring the
people into the playing.

Kw

On Sep 5, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote:

Whilst admiring how clever he is - and I genuinely think Hawtin  shows a
profound intelligence about how he applies the new opportunities which
these latest technologies offer - I found myself drifting.

I think I can only take so much technological advancement at a time.

Then I kind of withdraw, hoping to hear some actual music. Perhaps
something which completes rather than loops over another loop or even
four fragments looped at the same time.

The day when these genuinely impressive techniques add up to something
equally as genuinely impressive coming out of the speakers will be the
day when many luddites just using one laptop [ha, I'm not even going  to
mention the pre-historic relics, like me, who use that black plastic
stuff!) won't be allowed to DJ anymore due to being seen as a comedy
act.

Till then - and it could happen soon: perhaps 3 years? - I think there
are few more gigs to come.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 12:39 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (313) Richie Hawtin's Traktor setup


Although i have different midi controllers it's the way i'm playing as
well and exactly due to the same reasons.

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Interesting little video:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n4cy_richie-hawtin-traktor-setup_musi
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