Hi all,
I understand that reference IEEE 802.15.4 includes IEEE802.15.4e by definition.
But I have a problem in writing 6TiSCH draft if we remove "e" in reference.
Here is an example. "A 10ms time slot length is the default value defined by
[IEEE802154e]. Section 6.4.3.3.3 of [IEEE802154e] defines a default
macTimeslotTemplate,...." is in the section 3.4 of minimal draft. Then, the
question is how to point the exact place if we use IEEE 802.15.4 as reference.
ThanksQin
On Friday, May 1, 2015 12:55 AM, Pat Kinney
<pat.kin...@kinneyconsultingllc.com> wrote:
An amendment references (is based upon) the latest revision when it was
approved, hence 802.15.4e is based upon (i.e. it references) 802.15.4-2011.
Pat
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On 30, Apr2015, at 10:37, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthub...@cisco.com> wrote:
Hello Michael
For All I know 4e TSCH is only defined on 2011. There are known similar
technologies running over 2006 but they are not 4e...
The undated reference in an RFC to an IEEE spec applies to the present state at
the date of the RFC and to all future versions unless the RFC is revised.
This proved useful for Ethernet; too much maybe since we were fooled into
extending IP over Ethernet to Wi-Fi...
Cheers,
Pascal
> Le 30 avr. 2015 à 07:50, Michael Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca> a écrit :
>
>
> Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthub...@cisco.com> wrote:
>> Today, undated and without the 'e', IEEE802.15.4 means 2011 plus all
>> the amendments.
>
> Given that we can't run on 802.15.4-2011, this is why I'm concerned about
> referencing "802.15.4".
>
>> So, a reference to IEEE Std 802.3 (without year) today is identical to the
>> 2012 dated reference, but when the current revision is approved (expected
>> this year), a reference to the 2012 revision would not include the
>> maintenance changes included in the current revision, nor any of the
>> amendments likely to be approved soon after the revision is approved.
>
> How does an outsider know when the reference was made? Is it by the date
> of the document making the reference?
>
> If the IETF writes a document in 2014, but it doesn't get published in Jan.
> 2015,
> what IEEE document would "802.15.4" reference?
>
> Robert suggests text like:
>
>> In development of this RFC, IEEE Std 802.99 documents considered included
>> IEEE Std 802.99-2016 and P802.99/D8.
>
> and so if we can do this, then I'm happy.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
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