Well I'm just sayin for $50k/each I could quit this "Network Engineering" crap and go build tower shelters instead and I'd do just fine.

On 7/31/2021 11:42 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
In my opinion, there are few good reasons for building new.
https://usedshelter.com/telecom-shelters/?_ga=2.233259614.1766407811.1627746064-1553652512.1627746064 <https://usedshelter.com/telecom-shelters/?_ga=2.233259614.1766407811.1627746064-1553652512.1627746064>
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2021 8:28 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

Christ, I could build a pretty badass shelter for $50k.

On 7/30/2021 2:14 PM, Daniel White wrote:
The listing says the HVAC units have been replaced.  So at least they are not 23 years old :-)

New those shelters are $40k-$50k I think

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Josh Luthman
July 30, 2021 at 07:59
Probably about the same.  But built in 2021 versus 1998.  Just think about supporting those 23 year old HVAC systems and paying that bill every month.  Now think about spending an extra $2500 for modern ones.
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TJ Trout
July 29, 2021 at 17:06
Dual HVAC + 200a electric, could you really build that cheaper?



Josh Luthman
July 29, 2021 at 12:55
16k for a 1998 building...woof...
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Daniel White
July 28, 2021 at 14:25
A tower shelter bolted to a concrete pad is exactly what many companies use.  There really isn't any difference between that and a structure built on site to the same spec.  Usually they are prefab concrete.

These are the design criteria Fiberbond builds to for instance - https://www.fibrebond.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Concrete-Generic-Specifications-2016.pdf

https://www.fibrebond.com/markets/telecom/

Used one for sale - https://telepp.com/product/11-5x22-fibrebond-concrete-shelter/

Chris Fabien
July 28, 2021 at 07:39
We need to upgrade a roadside FTTH cabinet to a small building. I've
never started from scratch before. It will house maybe 2 racks of
equipment. I'm thinking 10x15 or 10x20 footprint. I know a used tower
shelter is an option but I'm leaning towards a real building, maybe
concrete for tornado resistance.

Probably two small Mini Splits for cooling. Power, I'm not sure,
probably dual 48v system although we may have some 120 equipment.
Propane backup generator or course. Probably needs some propane heat
also for winter in Michigan but maybe I could just run the right mini
split and some electric heat for super cold days.

Interested in any other ideas and what stuff do I need to consider
that's not even on my radar.

Thanks,
Chris



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