so the permanent is like determinant but without sign in summand.

I have found something interesting in your peoblem.

It is NP-complete if you have n=2, and numbers are powers of two, but on
input is only exponent.
som if there is number 2^100, only 100 is on input. One can directly reduce
MAX-PARTITION to this problem. This alone has no value, because it is
different problem, because the input if of log n size, as if it was in your
problem.

2009/3/9, Jim <arkma...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> After asking for helps from many persons who are skilled at algorithm
> design, I suspect this problem is a NP-complete.
> The only problem you speak of which contains multiplication is
> computing a "permanent", what is this problem?
> could you post any details or links about it?
>
> You are probably right that this problem is neither NP-complete nor P.
> Great hint.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> On Mar 9, 12:07 am, Miroslav Balaz <gpsla...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Do you have polynomial algorithm for that problem?
> > We don't need one another NP-copmlete problem. There is enough of them.
> >
> > And there are more interresting problems for which we don't know
> reduction.
> > The rule of thumb is, that if you pick random problem from NP that it is
> not
> > from P.
> > Assuming P \neq NP, there may be problems in NP that are not NP-complete
> and
> > are not in P.
> >
> > This problem contains ARITHMETIC MULTIPLICATION.
> > The only problem i know which contains multiplication is computing a
> > "permanent", but that is PSPACE complete, i think, but i am not sure.
> > You should try to find proof of  NP completeness of knapsack
> > problem(google).
> >
> >  If you want to make any success, you should first try case when all
> numbers
> > are power of two.
> >
>
> > 2009/3/8 Jim <arkma...@gmail.com>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > > it's incorrect. for example:
> > > 23, 24, 26, 30, 32, 63, 64, 90, n = 2, k = 4
> > > the minimum split is [26, 30, 32, 90] [23, 24, 63, 64]
> > > the sum is 4472064
> >
> > > On Mar 8, 10:08 pm, Miroslav Balaz <gpsla...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > > Can't you just sort the numbers, and than multiply first k numbers,
> than
> > > > second etc. ?
> >
> > > > 2009/3/8 Jim <arkma...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > > > Given a set of k*n positive numbers, we can split this set into n
> > > > > partitions, each partition with k numbers. Now, we multiply the
> > > > > numbers in each partition, got n products, then we have a sum of n
> > > > > products. How can we split this set to minimize this total sum?
> >
> > > > > It's easy to show this problem is NP. Since we can recast this
> > > > > optimization problem as a decision problem, how can we split this
> set
> > > > > and let this sum is not greater than a given number t, which is no
> > > > > harder than original optimization one. Given an instance of this
> > > > > decisive problem, we can easily compute this sum within O(n) time.
> >
> > > > > The key part is which known NP-complete problem reduces to this
> > > > > problem. Unfortunately, I have no idea about this polynomial
> > > > > reduction. (find a minimum weighted maximal matching with a
> > > > > hypergraph?)
> >
> > > > > Any hints will be appreciated, thanks.
>
> >
>

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