nopes........dats not the point.in every election one can vote for himself also
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Shuaib <aries.shu...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think the original statement says that " > * > The oldest pirate proposes how to share the coins, and all pirates > remaining will vote for or against it." > * > > So the pirate proposing the distribution can't vote for himself. > > -- > > Shuaib > http://twitter.com/ShuaibKhan > http://bytehood.com/ > > On Thursday, April 21, 2011 at 4:43 PM, vaibhav shukla wrote: > > lets consider if there were only 1 pirate. obviously he would take it all > for himself and no one would complain. > > if there were 2 pirates, pirate 2 being the most senior, he would just vote > for himself and that would be 50% of the vote, so he’s obviously going to > keep all the money for himself. > > if there were 3 pirates, pirate 3 has to convince at least one other person > to join in his plan. s *pirate 3 realizes that if his plan is not adopted > he will be executed and they will be left with 2 pirates*. he already > knows what happens when there are 2 pirates as we just figured out. pirate 2 > takes all the money himself and gives nothing to pirate 1. so pirate 3 > proposes that he will take 99 gold coins and give 1 coin to pirate 1. pirate > 1 says, well, 1 is better than none, and since i know if i don’t vote for > pirate 3, i get nothing, i should vote for this plan. > > now we know what happens when there are 3 pirates. so what happens with 4? > well pirate 4 has to convince 1 other person to join in his plan. he knows > if he walks the plank then pirate 3 will get 99 coins and pirate 1 will get > 1 coin. pirate 4 could propose giving pirate 1 two coins, and surely pirate > 1 would vote for him, since 2 is better than 1. but as he is greedy ,pirate > 4 would rather not part with 2 whole coins. he realizes that if he gets > executed, then pirate 3’s scenario happens and pirate 2 gets the shaft in > that scenario (he gets zero coins). so pirate 4 proposes that he will give 1 > coin to pirate 2, and pirate 2 seeing that 1 is better than 0 will obviously > vote for this plan. > > a common objection is that pirate 2 is not guaranteed to vote for this plan > since he might hope for the case when there are only 2 pirates and then he > gets all the booty. but that is why it is said that the pirates are > extremely intelligent. pirate 2 realizes that pirate 3 is smart enough to > make the optimal proposal, so he realizes that there will never be 2 pirates > left, because 3 doesn’t want to die and we just showed that 3 has a winning > proposal. > > so lets sum up at this point > > Pirate 1 2 3 4 5 > 5. ? ? ? ? ? > 4. 0 1 0 99 - > 3. 1 0 99 - - > 2. 0 100 - - - > 1.100 > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Shuaib <aries.shu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Not necessarily. Whatever the senior pirate proposes will have to be > accepted by pirate 4th and 2nd (assuming 5th is senior most) otherwise > pirate 1st gets everything. So it is oldest pirate's call. He can I guess > take it all. > > Shuaib > http://twitter.com/ShuaibKhan > http://www.bytehood.com/ > > On 21-Apr-2011, at 2:51 PM, durgaprasad k <durga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > @vaibhav : if they dont agree for 1 gold icon they will be thrown out. so > they will accept the 1 gold coin to stay on . > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:10 PM, vaibhav agrawal < <agrvaib...@gmail.com> > agrvaib...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Why the two pirates would agree when they are getting only one coins each? > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:05 PM, harshit agrawal <<hagrawal.250...@gmail.com> > hagrawal.250...@gmail.com> wrote: > > thwy will be shared according to > senior most pirate(5th)=98 > 4th =0 > 3rd =1 > 2nd=0 > 1st =1 > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Anders Ma < <http://xuejiao.ma>xuejiao.ma > @ <http://gmail.com>gmail.com> wrote: > > the coins will be shared the way the oldest pirate proposes. > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Lavesh Rawat < <lavesh.ra...@gmail.com> > lavesh.ra...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Pirate Puzzle > > > > 5 pirates of different ages have a treasure of 100 gold coins. > > On their ship, they decide to split the coins using this scheme: > > The oldest pirate proposes how to share the coins, and all pirates > remaining > > will vote for or against it. > > If 50% or more of the pirates vote for it, then the coins will be shared > > that way. Otherwise, the pirate proposing the scheme will be thrown > > overboard, and the process is repeated with the pirates that remain. > > > > Assuming that all 5 pirates are intelligent, rational, greedy, and do not > > wish to die, (and are rather good at math for pirates) what will happen? > > > > Update Your Answers at : Click Here > > Solution: > > Will be updated after 1 day > > > > -- > > > > "Never explain yourself. Your friends don’t need it > and > > your enemies won’t believe it" . > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Algorithm Geeks" group. > > To post to this group, send email to <algogeeks@googlegroups.com> > algogeeks@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > <algogeeks%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > algogeeks+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > <http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > Regards > Anders > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Algorithm Geeks" group. > To post to this group, send email to <algogeeks@googlegroups.com> > algogeeks@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > <algogeeks%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > algogeeks+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > <http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Harshit Agrawal > MNNIT Allahabad > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Algorithm Geeks" group. > To post to this group, send email to <algogeeks@googlegroups.com> > algogeeks@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > <algogeeks%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > algogeeks+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > <http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Algorithm Geeks" group. > To post to this group, send email to <algogeeks@googlegroups.com> > algogeeks@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > <algogeeks%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > algogeeks+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > <http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en> > http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Algorithm Geeks" group. > To post to this group, send email to algogeeks@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > algogeeks+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Algorithm Geeks" group. > To post to this group, send email to algogeeks@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > algogeeks+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en. > > > > > -- > best wishes!! > Vaibhav Shukla > DU-MCA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Algorithm Geeks" group. > To post to this group, send email to algogeeks@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > algogeeks+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Algorithm Geeks" group. > To post to this group, send email to algogeeks@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > algogeeks+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/algogeeks?hl=en. > -- best wishes!! 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