nopes........dats not the point.in every election one can vote for himself
also

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Shuaib <aries.shu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  I think the original statement says that "
> *
> The oldest pirate proposes how to share the coins, and all pirates
> remaining will vote for or against it."
> *
>
> So the pirate proposing the distribution can't vote for himself.
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> On Thursday, April 21, 2011 at 4:43 PM, vaibhav shukla wrote:
>
> lets consider if there were only 1 pirate. obviously he would take it all
> for himself and no one would complain.
>
> if there were 2 pirates, pirate 2 being the most senior, he would just vote
> for himself and that would be 50% of the vote, so he’s obviously going to
> keep all the money for himself.
>
> if there were 3 pirates, pirate 3 has to convince at least one other person
> to join in his plan. s *pirate 3 realizes that if his plan is not adopted
> he will be executed and they will be left with 2 pirates*. he already
> knows what happens when there are 2 pirates as we just figured out. pirate 2
> takes all the money himself and gives nothing to pirate 1. so pirate 3
> proposes that he will take 99 gold coins and give 1 coin to pirate 1. pirate
> 1 says, well, 1 is better than none, and since i know if i don’t vote for
> pirate 3, i get nothing, i should vote for this plan.
>
> now we know what happens when there are 3 pirates. so what happens with 4?
> well pirate 4 has to convince 1 other person to join in his plan. he knows
> if he walks the plank then pirate 3 will get 99 coins and pirate 1 will get
> 1 coin. pirate 4 could propose giving pirate 1 two coins, and surely pirate
> 1 would vote for him, since 2 is better than 1. but as he is greedy ,pirate
> 4 would rather not part with 2 whole coins. he realizes that if he gets
> executed, then pirate 3’s scenario happens and pirate 2 gets the shaft in
> that scenario (he gets zero coins). so pirate 4 proposes that he will give 1
> coin to pirate 2, and pirate 2 seeing that 1 is better than 0 will obviously
> vote for this plan.
>
> a common objection is that pirate 2 is not guaranteed to vote for this plan
> since he might hope for the case when there are only 2 pirates and then he
> gets all the booty. but that is why it is said that the pirates are
> extremely intelligent. pirate 2 realizes that pirate 3 is smart enough to
> make the optimal proposal, so he realizes that there will never be 2 pirates
> left, because 3 doesn’t want to die and we just showed that 3 has a winning
> proposal.
>
> so lets sum up at this point
>
> Pirate 1  2  3  4  5
>     5. ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
>     4. 0  1  0 99  -
>     3. 1  0 99  -  -
>     2. 0 100 -  -  -
>     1.100
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Shuaib <aries.shu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Not necessarily. Whatever the senior pirate proposes will have to be
> accepted by pirate 4th and 2nd (assuming 5th is senior most) otherwise
> pirate 1st gets everything. So it is oldest pirate's call. He can I guess
> take it all.
>
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> On 21-Apr-2011, at 2:51 PM, durgaprasad k <durga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> @vaibhav : if they dont agree for 1 gold icon they will be thrown out. so
> they will accept the 1 gold coin to stay on .
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:10 PM, vaibhav agrawal < <agrvaib...@gmail.com>
> agrvaib...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Why the two pirates would agree when they are getting only one coins each?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:05 PM, harshit agrawal <<hagrawal.250...@gmail.com>
> hagrawal.250...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> thwy will be shared according to
> senior most pirate(5th)=98
> 4th =0
> 3rd =1
> 2nd=0
> 1st =1
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Anders Ma < <http://xuejiao.ma>xuejiao.ma
> @ <http://gmail.com>gmail.com> wrote:
>
> the coins will be shared the way the oldest pirate proposes.
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Lavesh Rawat < <lavesh.ra...@gmail.com>
> lavesh.ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Pirate Puzzle
> >
> > 5 pirates of different ages have a treasure of 100 gold coins.
> > On their ship, they decide to split the coins using this scheme:
> > The oldest pirate proposes how to share the coins, and all pirates
> remaining
> > will vote for or against it.
> > If 50% or more of the pirates vote for it, then the coins will be shared
> > that way. Otherwise, the pirate proposing the scheme will be thrown
> > overboard, and the process is repeated with the pirates that remain.
> >
> > Assuming that all 5 pirates are intelligent, rational, greedy, and do not
> > wish to die, (and are rather good at math for pirates) what will happen?
> >
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