I believe for the next level of archival_objects, you have to get 
/repositories/$REPO/archival_objects/$ID/children , but check the API docs.


Note that there is also a GET /repositories/$REPO/resources/$ID/ordered_records 
method that gives you the whole hierarchy, but minimal info about each 
resource:  { ref: display_string:, depth:, level: } 

I don’t think I knew about that one the first time I was wrestling with this 
sort of task. 
If you’re doing backend API and not worried about real time display update, it 
might make more sense to walk the output ordered_records 
If you want more complete info on resource children. 


— Steve. 


> On Jul 23, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Trevor Thornton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Just found that file in the repo before I saw your message and I think I 
> understand now - thanks!
> 
> So, if you're looking at a node below the root (an ArchivalObject) that has 
> >200 children, you would hit the ".../tree/waypoint" endpoint however many 
> times and include "parent_node" in the GET params with the ArchivalObject 
> URI, right?
> 
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:57 AM Majewski, Steven Dennis (sdm7g) 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> So the next question is how do you make the subsequent calls to retrieve the 
>> next 200, etc.?
> 
> 
> 
> You call  /repositories/$repo/resources/$id/tree/waypoint?offset=$N  23 
> times. 
> ( You already got the first batch in .precomputed_waypoints in the call to 
> /ress/root  ) 
> 
> 
> I found the documentation note in the source I was looking for: 
> https://github.com/archivesspace/archivesspace/blob/master/backend/app/model/large_tree.rb
>  
> <https://github.com/archivesspace/archivesspace/blob/master/backend/app/model/large_tree.rb>
> 
> 
> # What's the big idea?
> #
> # ArchivesSpace has some big trees in it, and sometimes they look a lot like 
> big
> # sticks.  Back in the dark ages, we used JSTree for our trees, which in 
> general
> # is perfectly cromulent.  We recognized the risk of having some very large
> # collections, so dutifully configured JSTree to lazily load subtrees as the
> # user expanded them (avoiding having to load the full tree into memory right
> # away).
> #
> # However, time makes fools of us all.  The JSTree approach works fine if your
> # tree is fairly well balanced, but that's not what things look like in the 
> real
> # world.  Some trees have a single root node and tens of thousands of records
> # directly underneath it.  Lazy loading at the subtree level doesn't save you
> # here: as soon as you expand that (single) node, you're toast.
> #
> # This "large tree" business is a way around all of this.  It's effectively a
> # hybrid of trees and pagination, except we call the pages "waypoints" for
> # reasons known only to me.  So here's the big idea:
> #
> #  * You want to show a tree.  You ask the API to give you the root node.
> #
> #  * The root node tells you whether or not it has children, how many 
> children,
> #    and how many waypoints that works out to.
> #
> #  * Each waypoint is a fixed-size page of nodes.  If the waypoint size is set
> #    to 200, a node with 1,000 children would have 5 waypoints underneath it.
> #
> #  * So, to display the records underneath the root node, you fetch the root
> #    node, then fetch the first waypoint to get the first N nodes.  If you 
> need
> #    to show more nodes (i.e. if the user has scrolled down), you fetch the
> #    second waypoint, and so on.
> #
> #  * The records underneath the root might have their own children, and 
> they'll
> #    have their own waypoints that you can fetch in the same way.  It's nodes,
> #    waypoints and turtles the whole way down.
> #
> # All of this interacts with the largetree.js code in the staff and public
> # interfaces.  You open a resource record, and largetree.js fetches the root
> # node and inserts placeholders for each waypoint underneath it.  As the user
> # scrolls towards a placeholder, the code starts building tracks ahead of the
> # train, fetching that waypoint and rendering the records it contains.  When a
> # user expands a node to view its children, that process repeats again (the 
> node
> # is fetched, waypoint placeholders inserted, etc.).
> #
> # The public interface runs the same code as the staff interface, but with a
> # small twist: it fetches its nodes and waypoints from Solr, rather than from
> # the live API.  We hit the API endpoints at indexing time and store them as
> # Solr documents, effectively precomputing all of the bits of data we need 
> when
> # displaying trees.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 11:08 AM, Trevor Thornton <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Steve. That makes sense, and I tested with a resource with >1000 top 
>> level children and I see that only 200 of them are included, which 
>> corresponds to the value for "waypoint_size" in the response:
>> 
>> {  
>>    "child_count":4780,
>>    "waypoints":24,
>>    "waypoint_size":200
>> ...
>> 
>> So the next question is how do you make the subsequent calls to retrieve the 
>> next 200, etc.?
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 10:52 AM Majewski, Steven Dennis (sdm7g) 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> I believe the rationale of the waypoints was that initially, it was expected 
>> that resource children/ archival objects would fall into a more balanced 
>> tree structure, but it turned out that there were many flat hierarchies with 
>> hundreds of top level children, and getting all of the children at once was 
>> not working very efficiently. So with they waypoint calls, you may only be 
>> getting some of the children, but the display can start populating the tree 
>> display while making additional calls for the rest. 
>> 
>> I may have some postman examples and internal notes around somewhere: I’ll 
>> see what I can dig out. 
>> 
>> — Steve. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Trevor Thornton <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everybody-
>>> 
>>> I'm building a service using these API endpoints (or I think I am):
>>> [:GET] /repositories/:repo_id/resources/:id/tree/root 
>>> <http://archivesspace.github.io/archivesspace/api/#fetch-tree-information-for-the-top-level-resource-record>
>>> [:GET] /repositories/:repo_id/resources/:id/tree/node 
>>> <http://archivesspace.github.io/archivesspace/api/#fetch-tree-information-for-an-archival-object-record-within-a-tree>
>>> 
>>> These incorporate the concept of "waypoints", which I admit that I'm not 
>>> familiar with in this context, and it isn't explained very well in the 
>>> documentation. This is what I have to work with (these are elements 
>>> included in the API response):
>>> child_count – the number of immediate children
>>> waypoints – the number of “waypoints” those children are grouped into
>>> waypoint_size – the number of children in each waypoint
>>> precomputed_waypoints – a collection of arrays (keyed on child URI) in the 
>>> same format as returned by the ’/waypoint’ endpoint. Since a fetch for a 
>>> given node is almost always followed by a fetch of the first waypoint, 
>>> using the information in this structure can save a backend call.
>>> Can anyone explain what exactly waypoints are and how they are different 
>>> from children? In the examples I've seen, the "precomputed_waypoints" 
>>> element in the response looks like a convoluted way (an array value of the 
>>> lone element in an object, which is itself the value of the lone element in 
>>> another object) to provide the children nodes of the given node (or root). 
>>> What's the difference?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Trevor
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Trevor Thornton
>>> Applications Developer, Digital Library Initiatives
>>> North Carolina State University Libraries
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