Hi Lydia,

I can certainly see value in making it easy to cite the finding aid itself,
but the citation function explicitly pulls from the preferred citation
note, which in EAD is defined as "An element for specifying how users
should cite the described materials in publication credits."
<http://www.loc.gov/ead/EAD3taglib/EAD3.html#elem-prefercite>

It seems to me that the URL and date accessed should be removed in the next
version, which would immediately bring ArchivesSpace into compliance with
DACS.  While I generally support making the PUI as customizable as
possible, I don't see why it we would want the option to have a citation
that is not compliant with descriptive standards.

That said, an additional (clearly distinguished) function for generating a
citation for the finding aid itself would be a nice feature to have once
the existing citation is corrected.

All the best,

Dan

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 3:49 PM Tang, Lydia <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Dan and Henry,
>
> We recently discussed this ticket at Dev. Pri. and would love further
> input from everyone about it.  The reason for the URL and access date is
> that it can accurately cite the finding aid as potentially an evolving web
> page.  This could be really helpful for researchers referring to
> collections/finding aids that are actively being processed/revised.  I
> definitely see your point though that the citation note in DACS refers to
> the collection, not necessarily the finding aid, and thus the URL and
> access date wouldn’t be appropriate.  How do others feel about this topic?
> Perhaps if there was a way to customize the citation generator by the
> backend or staff interface, that would be helpful, so institutions could
> decide individually?  What other solutions would be better?
>
> Thanks for bringing this up!  Looking forward to hearing others’ input!
>
> Lydia
>
> Dev. Pri. co-chair
>
>
>
> *From: *<[email protected]> on
> behalf of Daniel Michelson <[email protected]>
> *Reply-To: *Archivesspace Users Group <
> [email protected]>
> *Date: *Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 3:35 PM
> *To: *Archivesspace Users Group <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] question about changing
> "Citation" page action options
>
>
>
> Hi Henry,
>
>
>
> It won't be of help right now, but I've created a ticket
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__archivesspace.atlassian.net_browse_ANW-2D921-3FatlOrigin-3DeyJpIjoiYWQ4NGY1ZGEwNzc1NGFhMzliZTg4NGQ0MWNjZGFjNDIiLCJwIjoiaiJ9&d=DwMFaQ&c=nE__W8dFE-shTxStwXtp0A&r=lG1-HSCEGsZJf-_mV6BDLh4PvkC3fOv47rKbM_dbh1g&m=FVNm3r9iVikXE-vQ6NC1Y93pLNul9mES5WMPYFbBH-c&s=paitNYx4bk-EqIwkauC_VJOPoNRtRGFVWoX-MDBOELY&e=>
> asking for the removal of the URL and date accessed from the citation,
> since it doesn't comply with DACS.
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 3:28 PM Steele, Henry <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I am working with Digital Collections & Archives at Tufts to modify the
> PUI with our branding, etc.  I have a question about changing the
> functionality of one of the action buttons at the top of the page when
> you’re in the context of a record.
>
>
>
> We want to change the output of the “Citation” button when you’re in the
> context of a resource, to remove the “URL” and “Accessed: <datestamp>”
> parts of the outputted citation.  I spent some time this afternoon trying
> to find where to do this, and the nearest thing I could find was Harvard’s
> PUI plugin:
> https://github.com/harvard-library/aspace-hvd-pui/blob/master/public/plugin_init.rb
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fgithub.com-252Fharvard-2Dlibrary-252Faspace-2Dhvd-2Dpui-252Fblob-252Fmaster-252Fpublic-252Fplugin-5Finit.rb-26data-3D02-257C01-257Cmark.custer-2540yale.edu-257C2e6f375d5c084490b50008d7316aa1b3-257Cdd8cbebb21394df8b4114e3e87abeb5c-257C0-257C0-257C637032206368478026-26sdata-3D4sb7ZMfQpZG5nZ-252BJKItS9LtmxEZiKtNzc7hEKe3rP-252Bs-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMFaQ&c=nE__W8dFE-shTxStwXtp0A&r=lG1-HSCEGsZJf-_mV6BDLh4PvkC3fOv47rKbM_dbh1g&m=FVNm3r9iVikXE-vQ6NC1Y93pLNul9mES5WMPYFbBH-c&s=bITC2BeefW9LdTgBwj9rOQdkvkSC-nTiZgc5WjT9F-c&e=>
>    But after fiddling for a bit I couldn’t get this to work.  Plus it
> would be great if we don’t have to import a whole plugin, since most of
> these are configuration changes akin to what you and Tufts want to do, with
> their branding
>
>
>
> Has anyone ever attempted this, or know where this behavior can be changed?
>
>
>
>
>
> Henry Steele
>
> Systems Librarian
>
> Tufts University Library Technology Services
>
> (617)627-5239
>
>
>
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