Hi Christine, At our end, it is only aspirational at this point, but I would like (someday) to eventually have a bilingual finding aid portal that includes Arabic, and that could describe our Arabic content in that language. The last two archival repositories that I worked at (in the U.S.) also had significant amounts of non-English materials, including Russian, that would have benefited from description in those languages/scripts and software that would better support that.
Best, Brad Bauer New York University Abu Dhabi On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 7:25 PM Noah Huffman <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Christine, > > Chiming in late to this, but this would be extremely valuable in our > context. We are increasingly doing multi-lingual description and modeling > this data in ArchivesSpace has been a bit of a challenge so far. For notes, > we record each language in a separate note subrecord (works OK), but for > titles our workaround has been to add an additional note subrecord on the > Archival Object with a label like “Title (Chinese).” Occasionally, we’ve > just crammed both languages into the same title field separated with pipe > characters (not my favorite approach). > > Ultimately, as Scott suggested, we’d love some sort of togglable front-end > where a user could select their preferred display language. Or, languages > could be displayed based on a user’s browser language setting. EAD3 has > some facility for handling multi-lingual description, but ASpace EAD3 > exports can’t really take advantage of this. > > Here are links to some of our published multilingual finding aids just to > give you a sense of the variety of multi-lingual description. We manage > this description in ArchivesSpace, but don’t currently use the > ArchivesSpace public interface. > > Radio Haiti (collection description in English, French, Creole): > https://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/findingaids/radiohaiti/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__library.duke.edu_rubenstein_findingaids_radiohaiti_&d=DwMFAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=8Xy72keGxrm5-LXMewd02A&m=f6J_qE6HACr-AS4eXsitlWcNNvIkOaBQfpDZuqC6yVc&s=QA2sONiOkf7MFNJWhOAasu-qs5yWTYLvBmwRCVnD9rI&e=> > > Heschel (collection description in English, Hebrew): > https://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/findingaids/heschelabraham/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__library.duke.edu_rubenstein_findingaids_heschelabraham_&d=DwMFAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=8Xy72keGxrm5-LXMewd02A&m=f6J_qE6HACr-AS4eXsitlWcNNvIkOaBQfpDZuqC6yVc&s=GoDNwNHWj4UzQJ_eputYUuKPAFD6MQvNlTNDt5YIdWY&e=> > > Shockley (item-level photos described in English and Chinese): > https://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/findingaids/shockleywilliamh/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__library.duke.edu_rubenstein_findingaids_shockleywilliamh_&d=DwMFAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=8Xy72keGxrm5-LXMewd02A&m=f6J_qE6HACr-AS4eXsitlWcNNvIkOaBQfpDZuqC6yVc&s=6qlZK5AR1r55TgGnrVkj_ZVnnCHaP9sQxaFFVRJhdGY&e=> > > -Noah > > > > ================ > > Noah Huffman > > Archivist for Metadata, Systems, and Digital Records > > David M. Rubenstein Rare Book & Manuscript Library > > Duke University | 919-660-5982 > > http://library.duke.edu/rubenstein/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__library.duke.edu_rubenstein_&d=DwMFAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=8Xy72keGxrm5-LXMewd02A&m=f6J_qE6HACr-AS4eXsitlWcNNvIkOaBQfpDZuqC6yVc&s=-28JTTWyd7RHGLrsNRr8Anb9mJRwpjODxu-vdjbt4ZU&e=> > > > > > > *From:* [email protected] < > [email protected]> *On Behalf Of > *Christine > Di Bella > *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2019 11:13 AM > *To:* Archivesspace Users Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Dual Language Data > > > > Hi all, > > > > I’m very interested in discussion of the underlying issues as well as > whether people have done anything to work around ArchivesSpace’s > limitations in this area. (I’m fact, I recently created a Jira ticket for > something in this area based on other inquiries: > https://archivesspace.atlassian.net/browse/ANW-957 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__archivesspace.atlassian.net_browse_ANW-2D957&d=DwMFAg&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=F0JE8U9-xhxe_nE7d7aEUi-uqfKqvYJ222bS0oz9mko&m=aMIF32xjFuNMLKOiZ0UlXNaCfVPs3mwVN5fVQmHZOq0&s=cnNHeIkbJRrRCjCkAuEdvSYHTO9vm-YoBMkSRLJlZIQ&e=>.) > As I mention in that ticket, because of the repeatability of sub-records > doing description in multiple languages is possible in some areas of > ArchivesSpace but not all, and there is not way for our current EAD exports > (either EAD2002 or EAD3) or other outputs to distinguish between the > different languages. How many of you work in contexts where this would be > valuable (or even required) for individual collections, to work with > different service populations or for your local or national context? > > > > Christine > > > > Christine Di Bella > > ArchivesSpace Program Manager > > [email protected] > > 800.999.8558 x2905 > > 678-235-2905 > > cdibella13 (Skype) > > > > [image: ASpaceOrgHomeMedium] > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] < > [email protected]> on behalf of > Andrew Morrison <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2019 10:24:34 AM > *To:* Archivesspace Users Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [Archivesspace_Users_Group] Dual Language Data > > > > I would imagine it would require a major overhaul or fork of ArchivesSpace > to make it capable of capturing two or more translations of everything in a > single record. The data model > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_archivesspace_archivesspace_tree_master_common_schemas&d=DwMFAg&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=F0JE8U9-xhxe_nE7d7aEUi-uqfKqvYJ222bS0oz9mko&m=aMIF32xjFuNMLKOiZ0UlXNaCfVPs3mwVN5fVQmHZOq0&s=TG5UzSFotFC2wJfEivQ1QbNikE1XTTAj4cYtcbmKR4A&e=> > is close to the EAD 2002 schema, which isn't multilingual in this sense > (unlike, say, the manuscript description module of the TEI schema > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.tei-2Dc.org_release_doc_tei-2Dp5-2Ddoc_en_html_MS.html&d=DwMFAg&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=F0JE8U9-xhxe_nE7d7aEUi-uqfKqvYJ222bS0oz9mko&m=aMIF32xjFuNMLKOiZ0UlXNaCfVPs3mwVN5fVQmHZOq0&s=Xrz9ORVm6mx5TzauJKunMBVqSbZyvQ-uxOIYMl2edbE&e=> > .) > > > > Andrew. > > > > > > On Fri, 2019-11-15 at 12:30 +0000, RENTON Scott wrote: > > Hi folks > > > > Wondering if anyone can help with a challenge I've been set. I've got a > task to investigate how easily we could populate a togglable > English-Scottish Gaelic front end supplied by Archives Space data (through > either the SOLR index or the API- we've built a few single-language sites > which interrogate ArchivesSpace SOLR). > > > > I know that language can be captured when cataloguing, but would I be > right in saying there is no way of capturing the same data in multiple > languages (i.e. can I catalogue a title for a resource twice, once in > English, and once in Gaelic, and would the link, that they are 'the same > thing' be preserved?)? > > > > The current website is a bespoke postgres db, which can do this. We want > to migrate the users over to ArchivesSpace, and I'm pretty sure it can > handle everything, but this would be a sticking point if it's not possible. > > > > Cheers > > Scott > > > > > > ========== > > Scott Renton > > Library Digital Development > > Floor F East > > Argyle House > > 515219 > > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, > with registration number SC005336. > > _______________________________________________ > > Archivesspace_Users_Group mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lyralists.lyrasis.org/mailman/listinfo/archivesspace_users_group > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lyralists.lyrasis.org_mailman_listinfo_archivesspace-5Fusers-5Fgroup&d=DwMFAg&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=F0JE8U9-xhxe_nE7d7aEUi-uqfKqvYJ222bS0oz9mko&m=aMIF32xjFuNMLKOiZ0UlXNaCfVPs3mwVN5fVQmHZOq0&s=HekT5fesx8g1YAJlyvSQHFCnDP0KC5d_Lse4uUn6U-Y&e=> > > _______________________________________________ > Archivesspace_Users_Group mailing list > [email protected] > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lyralists.lyrasis.org_mailman_listinfo_archivesspace-5Fusers-5Fgroup&d=DwICAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=8Xy72keGxrm5-LXMewd02A&m=f6J_qE6HACr-AS4eXsitlWcNNvIkOaBQfpDZuqC6yVc&s=IVl54tEQCokSJ2anGzyw5YNaewFPnZN4IkFvjdcDYRs&e= > -- Brad Bauer Librarian for Archives and Special Collections New York University Abu Dhabi PO Box 129188 Saadiyat Island Abu Dhabi, UAE e-mail: [email protected] phone: +971 2 628 7335
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