</Rant> Another thing with the CMDB -- to CM -- Integrations is the server fallout of information. I am have some issues with the multiple nic / cm agent output into the cmdb. For example: Server A have 5 nics all at 10 gbs of so. so now I get hostnames of the following in the cmdb. Hostname Hostname-bur Hostname-mgt Hostname-pri Hostname-back Then TD comes in and I also get Hostname:Domain.name IP ----------------------- Reason Each hostname is connected to a different nic, so it is a different item. Each IP is individual if you cannot access the box -- which you need sudo rights and a global account (security risk -- not allowed) TD: has no ability to do multiple TD's Multi-tenecy -- It says it does.. but it is a Manual Process.. you have to change the company, and then shutdown the service and start the service backup (which cannot be done without a RFC -- Request for change -- Change request) and then scan and syncronized, Then change the name to the next co. and start process all over again. CM-- latest agents for 7.2 is java 1.4.2_19 JRE Run (insecure -- java already hacked, and insecure) so this means you have to have 7.5 -- but that means you have to have ARS 7.5, ITSM 7.5, CMDB 7.5, AIE 7.5, DSL 7.5, CDI 7.5, and Oh, there are about 12 little bugs that you have to know about, like -- if you are using oracle with AIE and CDI then on a Tues with a full moon, ensure you are standing on 1 leg and barking but like a chow chow, not like a coyote.. ERRRRrrrr --------/Rant P.S See previous rant about how engineering is behind..
OH, and if you have plans of 2008 server Windows.. you might want to wait, (or you have no choice) as the compatibility is almost 0. ---/Finally just thought I would mention it.. CM is on 8.0 now as well, (consider it a finial release) as Bladelogic is the main beast for CM now... and there is not just an HOSTNAME On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:47 PM, strauss <stra...@unt.edu> wrote: > We are trying to build this out for our site as we upgrade from 7.1 to 7.5 > in another case where we don't have Asset Mgmt, and have already seen a > number of issues: > > 1. The Topology Discovery and Foundation Discovery 1.6 product only works > with 7.1, not 7.5. > > 2. The 7.5 version is called BMC Atrium Discovery and Dependency Mapping > (ADDM) and replaces the other two mainly in that it is a single > installation; it is required to work with CMDB 7.5. > > 3. <RANT> We just purchased the Topology Discovery and Foundation Discovery > product, downloaded 1.6, then found we needed the newer version to work with > 7.5, and THEN were told that it is a "different" product (horse#*%^) and > that we did not have access to it (7.5 was released while our Discovery > purchase was being processed). If you read the ADDM 7.5 docs they show > clearly that is the upgrade AND BUG FIX for the earlier 1.6 product, so no, > it is the same product, just renamed and renumbered like everything else in > the BMC stable. So, buyer beware - they are trying to run a shell game on > us here. </RANT> > > 4. The db for either one of these products must be case sensitive. Most of > use running ARS against SQL Server have never even installed it with case > sensitive collation, so I plan to set up a separate SQL Server just for > Discovery; I can't use any of my existing servers which are all case > insensitive. > > 5. BMC docs indicate that Discovery should be on its own server, separate > from ARS and anything else, and that the db should be separate; my plan is > to put the SQL Server and Discovery server on a dedicated box, at least at > first, if we can ever get to the 7.5 code. > > Christopher Strauss, Ph.D. > Call Tracking Administration Manager > University of North Texas Computing & IT Center > http://itsm.unt.edu/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:56 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: CMDB and Discovery > > One more thing, can the discovery server be the same piece of hardware > as the discovery server? > > > Thanks, > > Gary Opela, Jr. > Sr. Remedy Engineer > Avaya Phone Admin > RSP Cert, Sec+ > 405 739 7006 x30043 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Matt Ferrigno > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:44 PM > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Subject: Re: CMDB and Discovery > > ** One other thing worth mentioning. The Configuration Discovery > integration relies on items that are installed with EIE. When I did the > integration, it failed because we only had AIE installed (which left out > some of the original EIE components). The answer was installing EIE and > then upgrading to AIE before performing the Configuration Discovery > Integration. This was a bug in the install process and I'm not sure if > it has been addressed yet. > > Matt > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Matt Ferrigno > <matthew.ferri...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The answer depends on what discovery tool you plan to use. > Here's the answer for the two that I know. > > Foundation Discovery/Topology Discovery: > AR Server > CMDB > FD/TD > DSL (A local copy of the DSL is also installed on the Discovery > Server, the versions of DSL need to match on the Discovery and AR > servers) > > Configuration Discovery: > AR Server > CMDB > Configuration Discovery > AIE > DSL (Configuration Discovery does not require a local install of > the DSL on the Discovery server as it looks to DSL on the AR Server for > normalization) > > I believe these products have now been combined into a single > product, in which case I would imagine they would use AIE to pull data > into the CMDB and also utilize the DSL on the AR Server for > normalization. > > Matt > > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Roger Justice > <rjust2...@aol.com> wrote: > > > ** CMDB needs AR Server since it is an ARS application. > All Reconciliation mapping are installed when you do the Discovery > integration to CMDB. The data is passed from Discovery to CMDB using > CMDB API calls > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Opela, Gary L CTR USAF AFMC 72 CS/SCBAH > <gary.opela....@tinker.af.mil> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > Sent: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:56 pm > Subject: CMDB and Discovery > > > ** > BMC Remedy 7.1 > > Hello all. I am curious as to what all is required if I > were to want to use BMC Discovery to populate the CMDB? > > Would I only need CMDB, Discovery, and DSL, or would > there be additional utilities or tools required (other than the obvious, > such as arserver)? > > I am mainly looking to get the data into the CMDB. I'm > not concerned about presenting it in Asset Management at this point, > only in populating the CMDB. > > Thanks, > > Gary Opela, Jr. > Sr. Remedy Engineer > Avaya Phone Admin > RSP Cert, Sec+ > 405 739 7006 x30043 > > _Platinum Sponsor: rmisoluti...@verizon.net ARSlist: > "Where the Answers Are"_ > > > ________________________________ > > Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop: Now in 6 vibrant colors! 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