john,
 for what its worth, i value your input. While you and i have butted 
heads before, it was never over a lack of respect for you.
Please keep up challenging my point of view, and i will return the 
favor

tony

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> It's amazing. People on here take potshots at a government I helped 
> to elect without one peep, yet I bring a healthy skepticism to a 
> counter-revolutionary group, and I'm branded everything from 
selfish 
> to a Nazi sympathizer. (which is humorously ironic to this history 
> buff, as nazism was a SOCIALIST movement.)
> 
> As Lighty & Bruce alluded to, blind faith in anything will get you 
> killed. Case in point. History tells us every revolutionary 
> movement, absent a persuasive leader, needs a sympathetic martyr to 
> rally around. What better martyr than a good-looking All-American 
> kid from the heartland? This kid, despite a desire to "blow things 
> up", freely chose to join the Marine Corps rather than hone his 
> desires at any of the numerous coal mines, steel mills, or 
> construction sites that pepper the greater Allentown area. His 
> induction in to Marines began with a 4am arrival & haircut at 
Parris 
> Island, followed by twelve weeks of sweeping a broom to the cadence 
> of "Marine Corps, KILL KILL KILL", jumping jacks to the cadence 
> of "Marine Corps, KILL KILL KILL", and piercing his dinner with a 
> fork to the cadence of "Marine Corps, KILL KILL KILL". During these 
> 12 weeks, he was exposed & desensitized to what the phrase "Marine 
> Corps, KILL KILL KILL" actually means. Because he was a volunteer, 
> he was given the option of withdrawing at any time. Roughly 30% of 
> his fellow recruits chose to drop out under no obligation. He chose 
> to graduate from basic training & was contractually obligated to 
> spend the next four years of his life as a Marine, the most 
> efficient killing force the world has ever known.
> 
> Sometime in the last three months of his contractual obligation 
(May-
> August 2003) he saw something that bothered him. This perfectly 
> natural occurrence, once known as "shell shock" is now called Post 
> Traumatic Stress Disorder. It can manifest itself months or years 
> after actual combat. People with untreated PTSD have been shown to 
> be highly susceptible to dangerous influences & are more likely to 
> have harmful side effects from PTSD.
> 
> Now let's get back to the revolutionary movement again. 
> Surprisingly, IVAW was founded by Corporal Hoffman, but its 
> headquarters are in St. Louis, not in Pennsylvania, where he now 
> lives. IVAW can either get Corporal Hoffman the treatment he needs 
> to combat PTSD or they can exploit this good-looking All-American 
> kid & make him relive his nightmares to further their agenda. Since 
> they take their name from VVAW, we can assume their agenda is the 
> same: full scale withdrawal of US troops from all hostilities using 
> any means necessary. VVAW metastized from a non-violent protest 
> group in November 1967 to a counter-revolutionary group in November 
> 1971 calling for National Strikes, open sedition, and assassination 
> of US Senators.
> 
> The fact IVAW found some non-violent filmaker with a large 
following 
> in Asbury Park to further their agenda has proven their 
exploitation 
> of Corporal Hoffman was successful. God help us all if Al-Qaeda is 
> able to funnel money & propaganda to IVAW the same way the KGB, 
> through the World Peace Council, was able to funnel money to VVAW.
> 
> Now, Jim, regarding your most recent post directed to me, I would 
> appreciate it if you would refrain from the personal attacks & 
> insults. We can disagree without being disagreeable. As a 
> documentary filmmaker, I was under the assumption you were 
> interested in discovering & presenting facts. I apologize if my 
> assumptions were incorrect.





 
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