At 12:28 PM -0400 5/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In a message dated 5/10/2005 5:30:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>In that same time period, your
>candidate Stuart failed miserably running the Chamber of Commerce
>until it ran out of funds to pay his salary.
>
>Stuart was stabbed in the back by people he worked with, namely Tom Gilmour,
>who was setting things up at the Chamber for his own benefit.
>Stuart was selling Chamber memberships at a time when there was so little left
>in the kitty that Chamber services were at an all-time low.
One would have to ask how the executive director of the chamber allowed
services to deteroriate to that level in the first place.
>Stuart still got the Carousel Awards back up and running
How much money was raised by that event? Isn't the first job of an E.D. of a
non-profit to raise enough money to at least fund his/her salary going forward?
>~ and came up with a nifty event called, "The Taste of Asbury." That's right,
>but you thought it was Gilmour's idea. Not. Tom cut Stu out of the whole event
>and refused to put the Chamber's logo on the banners. How did that help Asbury
>Park??
Revisionist history that is not worth responding to.
>Still, Stu put his own money out to buy Chamber t-shirts to sell at the
>Meadowlands and on the boardwalk - and was thrown off the boardwalk by
>Fishman. Oh, maybe you didn't realize that the City had given Fishman control
>of the vendor licenses on the boardwalk.
Everyone knew that about vending rights... you alone have mentioned it
countless times. Seems Stuart should have known it. Sounds like a bad business
plan on his part. Maybe you should have mentioned it to him at one of the many
board meetings.
>Meanwhile, Gilmour was signing up members for the Urban Enterprise Zone in
>record numbers. Let's see, what's a membership in the UEZ cost? $5?? And you
>get loans, grants and sales tax cuts? And what's a Chamber membership? Min.
>$125 for a non-profit?
The way you mix apples and oranges in the above statement shows that you do not
possess even an inkling of what the State's Urban Enterprize Zone program is.
The Chamber of Commerce and the UEZ can not possibly be compared. They are two
entirely different types of entity. For starters, the UEZ is not a organization
that you join. Your business has to be certified by the state. There are strict
requirements that the state imposes on business before they can be certified.
And even stricter requirements for continuing certification from one year to
the next. One of the requirements is the creation of jobs. Something that no
Chamber member is required to do.
>And, gee was Gilmour on full salary while he did this? And was Stu working
>full time for half time pay after he agreed to take a 50% pay cut? YES, YES,
>YES.
The bottom line is that in the first year -- while Stuart worked full time for
full salary -- he was unable to keep the income flowing into the Chamber at a
level high enough to fund the only real expense the Chamber had -- his salary.
Chambers of Commerce -- like most non-profits -- do not survive on membership
dues. So even the 39% membership increase Stuart claims on his resume would be
insignificant in funding an E.D.'s salary. (Oh the two dozen exchange
memberships (i.e., no dues are paid) with other Chambers of Commerce should
really be taken out of that so-called "39% increase in membership." )
>I was there. I was on the Chamber!! Were you???
I find your basic misunderstanding of the facts pretty amazing.
~joe
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