Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.
This discussion couldn't get more out of control.
If you are saying now that I can be intelligent regardless of being
uninformed, then what were you saying in your previous post about
those people who couldn't make an "intelligent, informed decision?"
That they are "unintelligent" regardless of information? It's almost
confusing now (which if you read on, becomes my point).
Jim alot of people peering in at these posts might get the wrong
impression that I'm trying to trip-up the new councilman before he
is sworn in. You know I don't want to do that. You also know that
politics is not a casual undertaking for me. There are pols
throughout Monmouth County that listen to my counsel regarding
message on issues. I'm pretty damn good with message, if you will
permit me that moment of pride.
Since seeking the advice of professionals on various subjects is
important to you, please take some professional advise from me right
now, as unsolicited as I know this advice is. Disregard it if you
wish, but I promise I intend this sincerely to help a bright young
pol about to move forward in his political career (remember you are
a full blown Asbury Parker now, so of course I want to help :)).
Here goes:
Even accepting every post you and your supporters have made
regarding your original "can't make an intelligent and infromed
decsion" post, you should never use those words again in describing
your electorate. I know what you are thinking: "But it had a meaing
different than how you have portrayed it, Tom." Well, that's the
point. An ambiguity like that gives your adversary a chance to
pounce. If the mainstream media (here the AP Press) ever turns on
you Jim, they will beat you with a phrase like that like they were
beating you with a rubber hose. Unlike this board, you won't get a
chance to respond in kind to them.
All hair-splitting over meaning and definitions aside, Jim, don't
put yourself in that position with words like that again. I know
you didn't intend it to be mean-spirited, but do you think a
political opponent (or worse a newspaper) in the real world will
care? They will cream you with a phrase like that. You have no
choice but to be more careful with words now that you are elected,
like it or not.
Beware of Skip Hidlay at the AP Press. This guy wears fallen
politicians as notches in his belt. He brags of it like it's a
sport. Give him a reason and he will take you down, fair or unfair.
He's way better at it than I'll ever be (or would ever want to be).
See John Bennett in Monmouth and Bob Shea in Ocean. Two guys that
did nothing illegal, but when Skip Hidlay was done you would have
thought they were criminals. Political careers over, and Bennett
was the most powerful Republican in New Jersey at the time (Hidlay
took him down in 3 months).
I'm an academic-philospher on politics with nothing to lose because
I have no repsonsibility to serve. I can say what I want because
with few exceptions, my words are inconsequential. You are an
elected representative now. Your words are important, Jim, so don't
say anything that can so easly be turned into a club against you.
This "uninformed/unitelligent" stuff was easy pickins for someone
who wants to hurt you, and I know you can see that. This may seem
like a silly academic exercise by me, but I'm certain there will
come a time in the next 4 years where you will find it relevant.
Now for the truly out of control part of this discussion, that must
be brought under control:
As for naming names...you don't have any names. You will never name
any names! This was an acedemic discussion, and you were speaking
in broad generalities in your previous post. You were not referring
to individuals, rather a collective consciousness, if you will.
There are no names councilman. No names!
Look, you and I are going to bang heads in the future on policy.
We're both certain of that (even looking forward to it). That
doesn't mean I want to see you trip up on procedure. I'll always be
happy to lend you a hand in that regard (like it or not ;)).
Ok friend? Good luck in July when you are sworn in.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In a message dated 6/7/2005 4:25:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> "uninformed and thefore unintellingent"
>
>
> Before I provide names Tom, please deal with the above
statement.
> Uninformed does not equal unitelligent. Agreed? You will not
put these (above)
> words in my mouth.
>
> An example:
>
> Tom Deseno, an intelligent bloke from Asbury Park recently wrote a
column
> this week about a young girl's struggle with the Catholic Church
over Celiac
> Disease. Although Tom is very intelligent, he was uninformed
about the facts
> and seriousness of the issue until he read a newspaper article,
had a
> conversation with two AP Catholic activists, and then most likely
did some more
> research on his own.
>
> See, you were intelligent, but uninformed - at the same time.
Now you
> remain intelligent and informed after you got the facts. Amazing
Tom, isn't it.
>
> Concede the point and I'll provide names. Quid pro quo.
>
> Peace, JWK
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