First Skippy Paparazzi, how do you know I didn't help him? Second, does coming in third/nearly second suggest John needs any help?
Third, as for being good at it, my 5 endorsements in a race of 19 came in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 8th. That's slightly better than APAC did. How'd you do? Now back on topic. You don't disagree with my advice to Mr. Keady, do you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "…politics is not a casual undertaking for me. There are pols > throughout Monmouth County that listen to my counsel regarding message > on issues. I'm pretty damn good with message, if you will permit me > that moment of pride." > > And to think we'd thought you were `simply' up to no good. Well I for > one am delighted to learn that here in our midst we have the privilege > of leaning from a master, a counselor of message a veritable > soothsayer if you will; better, he's sought out by county politicians, > who no doubt pay for his services. > > Which raises a thorny question, Tom if you're that good, why have you > not lent your good council to that very special guy, the member of > council most in need of political advice John Loffredo? Surely had > you done so, he'd not played mouth piece for that `Fishy' bit of > rationalizing over the value of the triangle. > > Where were you in John's hour of need, monster truck race? > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Dan I was just trying to point out that Jim's list of people who > > can't make "informed intelligent" decsisions about AP's > > redevelopment has apparantly grown by the size of the State Planning > > Commission, since they endorse it too. > > > > Of course Jim can clear all this up by naming names. Who were all > > those "uninformed and thefore unintellingent" people, Jim? You > > started this thread. Name names. Go ahead and end it for us. Name > > names. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > How about C: Recognize that in an election year the incumbents > > > might > > > > choose to `spin' the best take on a litany of broken promises, > > > missed > > > > opportunities deals purchased by players to whom the democrats > > are > > > > heavily indebted. > > > > > > > > If you truly believe this justifies Asbury's give-away; I've got > > a > > > > great deal for you in the Florida swamps. > > > > > > > And one takes a bite. > > > > > > Skip, perhaps you are replying for amusement. There can be no real > > > discussion of the facts, only the ultimate spin. So, the state > > > approved AP's plan? No one stated that it would not meet state > > > standards. He is throwing up a red herring. Any reasoned mind can > > > see that most of our complaints focused on the performance (non- > > > performance) of Fishman and the council's reluctance to hold his > > > feet to the fire as well as the nature of the deal with Asbury > > > Partners. There are also complaints about the plan itself and the > > > state's acceptance of the plan doesn't change anything or make > > what > > > we see wrong right. Lastly, the post is a bait and switch since > > > somehow he wants to tie it into JK's original post about informed > > > and intelligent decisions when it has nothing to do with it. You > > can > > > take jabs at him for amusement but I have given up trying to have > > a > > > reasoned discourse with him. It is not in his nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Below is the link to a very positive, upbeat and good news > > story > > > > > about Asbury in the AP Press today: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article? > > > > > AID=/20050607/NEWS01/506070351/1004/NEWS01 > > > > > > > > > > (If you can't open it, go to APP.com and click on the Monmouth > > > > > Section). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course being a positive article, it is hidden in an > > interior > > > > > section, many pages in, below the fold. > > > > > > > > > > The headline is vague and doesn't tell the real story. The > > real > > > > > story is the that the State Planning Commission has endorsed > > > AP's > > > > > redevelopment plan. > > > > > > > > > > Let's examine: Here is the State organization for planning, > > > > > speaking in glowing terms about Asbury Park's redevelopment > > > plan, > > > > > calling it progressive, "smart," the right plan, etc. > > > > > > > > > > Now lets revisit a recent discussion on this board, the one > > > about > > > > > whether Asbury Parkers can make "intelligent, informed" > > > decisions > > > > > about redevelopment. I believe the counter arguement was that > > > we > > > > > need to check our plan with Planning Professionals that know > > > more > > > > > than us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, the planning professionals have spoken!!! They are with > > > Asbury > > > > > Parkers, with Larry Fishman and Asbury Partners, with our City > > > > > Council and with our City Manager. Great job by all!!! > > > > > > > > > > Now I believe a certain councilman-elect, and certain posters > > to > > > > > tbis board will have to make a choice: > > > > > > > > > > A: Admit that the people of Asbury Park, with thier council, > > > manager > > > > > and redeveloper have put forth a plan that passes muster under > > > the > > > > > scrutiny of outside planning professionals; OR > > > > > > > > > > B: Lump the State Planning Commission in with us Asbury > > Parkers > > > you > > > > > claim can't make "informed, intelligent" decisions (which > > would > > > just > > > > > be silly at this point, wouldn't it?). > > > > > > > > > > AAAHHHHH! No sweeter revenge than being smart and right. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
