OK Skip we will live in your world - elections don't count. Feel better now? You win. Elections don't tell us what the people want. No need to respond now - you are having your way here. American elections are meaningless. Let's not even have them.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "what was the voter turnout Certainly a great deal higher than the > percentage that post to this board. A much more scientific study of > what the people of AP want. ...I have a different mind-set about > elections. I've never done in my life is claim that the result isn't > what the people wanted. That seems un-American to me. I won't argue > your point about the voters in AP being duped I just note that it is > disrespectful to them. I am simply opining about the consequences of > what you say, intended or not." > > Poor Tommy reduced to splitting hairs. Comes with the territory, > living in the freest land in the world, the most democratic of > democracies, that when the populace simply gives up and refuses to > play the shell game of American electoral process, the managers of > that system give up on fixing what's broken and compare its results to > some cockamamie poll on the internet; Karl Rove is proud of you. > > Seems that in Tommy's world the wants of the people are divined > through a system of survival of the fittest, i.e. those that survive > the machinations of the spin doctors who somehow know what they in > fact want. > > If this sounds a bit like "If you tell a lie big enough and keep > repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" you win the > prize; Tommy's still struggling with belief. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Tom, what was the voter turnout in %? > > > > Certainly a great deal higher than the percentage that post to this > > board. A much more scientific study of what the people of AP want. > > > > I know I have a different mind-set about elections. One thing I've > > never done in my life is claim that the result isn't what the people > > wanted. That seems un-American to me. > > > > Even in elections where I greatly disliked the outcome, I didn't do > > that. I was terribly disappointed about the election of Bill Clinton, > > but conceded the moment it happened that it was what the voters wanted. > > > > In the 1960 election there was every reason for the Republicans to > > claim voter fraud in Illanois, the election was stolen, Kennedey was > > selected not elected, etc., but no one of my mind-set did. No one > > with my mind-set would every do such damage to America or disrespect > > its people that way. > > > > Compare the other mindset. Gore and Kerry are still giving speeches > > that they were truly elected. Disprespectful to the American voter. > > > > I won't argue your point about the voters in AP being duped, or scared > > or whatever. I just note that it is disrespectful to them. I don't > > allege you intend that in any way; I am simply opining about the > > consequences of what you say, intended or not. > > > > I concede you see it differently and are of another mind-set. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
