A terrific response Dan. Very thoughtful and classy. You've earned the right to have the last word.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <bluebishop82@> > wrote: > > > > Dan I was Ok with your post until I got to the last sentence > > alleging that there are people who let the City "fall around them" > > and that only "outsiders" are smart enough to know the value of > the > > City. The problem that led to where we were in year 2001 pre- dated > > everyone. Most (not all) of the problems were caused by matters > > outside AP's control. > > Tom, my friend, calm down and look at your post, then look at my > post in response to Fred's posts. I didn't say that outsiders were > the "only" ones smart enough to know the inherent value of AP. I > said it probably takes an outsider (too close to the trees to see > the forest), but you know I don't really mean that. It is just a > response to being called a carpet bagger and the repeated reference > to outsiders, out of towners, etc. > > Let's not you and I go back to that again. You put that aside. It > does not matter how many times I've slept here, but I think you're > wrong about the 200. Even if I never slept here I own a home for me > and my family. I don't rent it out; I am not trying to make money > off of anyone here. In fact, I've lost money (time) being involved. > I pay taxes. You chose not to live here and moved your family out. I > respect your decision and do not consider that an issue in your > committment and love for this city. Please give me the same > latitude, although in reality, I will not try to compare my > affection for AP with yours; you were born and raised here. I > respect and acknowledge that. But that does not give you or anyone > else greater rights than me. > > The APP has also used the term resident for me. I won't quibble. If > it is such an issue (which it shouldn't be and I don't know why you > would want to make it one) perhaps HOMEOWNER would be more accurate. > > As to Ron mentioning me in his article, I don't beleive he did in > the first one, but even if he did, I think Reidy and Bruno got more > play even though I probably have (and have said) more relevant > things to say about redevelopment here. > > Do I blame long-time residents for the conditions that befell this > city that were out of their control? No. But even with circumstances > that are beyond their reach they can sound the alarm. I won't even > place blame for some people's silence, but when they are silent > about what is wrong and then criticize those who call attention to > what is wrong, then I ask them to remove the beam in their own eye. > > You are much too smart to think that I can affect what the NYT > writes. If I could, both articles would have been much different. > With regard to the supplemental agreement, I think only today's > editorial in the APP only began to do justice to the important > issues. > > As to only three people clapping for me - what care I for the > crowd's approbation? The could all throw rotten tomatoes and I would > still speak. I need not the roar of the crowd to know what is right. > Remember the line from Jesus Christ Superstar, "the rocks and stones > themselves would start to sing." That's what should be happening in > AP. The bricks and mortar should themselves crow about the wrongs. > > I don't care who I offend (although that is not my purpose) - as > long as the sky is blue I will say that it is blue. I will not be a > lemming and say it's red. Maybe life would be easier to just go > along with the tide, right or wrong. I can't live like that. > > As to me halting development of the Esperanza for months and > threatening to halt development further, you know that is not true. > > I did not violate the WRP - the city did. I did not disavow the WRP > in effect - the city did. I did not submit the purportedly wrong WRP > to CAFRA and other state agencies - the city did. I did not go back > on what I said about the Triangle - the city and Loffredo did. I did > not enact a WRP contrary to public law - the city did. I did not > willy nilly sign a RA with a force majeure with an escape clause for > litigation when there were already lawsuits filed - the city did. I > did not go back on my word about C-8 - the city and Loffredo did. > Shall I continue? > > I cannot, and will not, be held responsible if the city refuses to > do the right thing. That is the majority of the elected body's > choice. There will always be consequences for doing the rong thing. > There will always be consequences for doing the right thing. The > former may outwiegh the latter, but despite that, you should do the > right thing. > > There are plenty of people in AP smarter than I am. I too have feet > of clay. I have never claimed anything else. You are free to advise > Ron Smothers of your intentions. He doesn't work for me. > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/