Frank,
With all the same due respect...if the Lighthouse Mission didn't 
discriminate against against gay men, would there still be a Stand Up 
For Asbury Park coalition fighting their move into Asbury?
Thanks,
Dennis

steveguyrx wrote:

> Hi Reverend Brown,
> I would like you to provide me with the name of the Assistant US 
> Attorney from the Division of Civil Rights who you claim is going to 
> defend the mission. I think you lie, since the Civil Right's Division 
> would never get involved in defending a religious organization in a 
> civil litigation involving a group of concerned citizens or the city 
> of Asbury, that would be a violation of the separation of Church 
> and State.
>     With respect to your argument that this lawsuit is solely about 
> upset homosexuals in Asbury Park, I suggest you read the pleadings in 
> the Stand up for Asbury appeal. The basis of the lawsuit is 
> fundamental fairness, and the fact that Asbury Park and its' citizens 
> shoulder more that their fair share of social programs which address 
> the needs of our less fortunate brothers and sisters.
>     Since you live in Long Branch, you need not concern yourself with 
> our fiscal well-being or that of Asbury Park. In fact, when we prevail 
> in this lawsuit, the citizens of Asbury Park will save millions that 
> it would have to pay to house the thousands of homeless who will come 
> to this mission, be rejected, or thrown out of the shelter, with no 
> where else to go, except the Asubry Park department of Social 
> Services, Which will spend millions of our tax dollars to meet their 
> needs.
>      I find the tenor of your comments to me to be quite homophobic, 
> and anything but Christian, coming from a supposed man of God.
>       With respect to your offer to arbitrate and play the part of 
> Jesse Jackson. Let me say this, I have met Jesse Jackson, and once 
> worked with him, as an attorney, on a civil rights lawsuit, and I can 
> tell you, your no Jesse Jackson.
> An arbitrator, by it very definition, is an un-biased, neutral, 
> third-party, you obviously are none of these things. Thanks, but no 
> thanks for your offer.
>    In closing, I suggest you read the Good Book, ask God for some 
> guidance, and try to live the virtues which Jesus Christ preached, 
> instead of hiding behind you collar and perpetuating hatred.
> God Help You,
> Frank Farrell
> Stand Up For Asbury
>    
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     *To:* AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com <mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Friday, July 07, 2006 10:19 PM
>     *Subject:* [AsburyPark] fighting a mission is a futile action
>
>     I applaud Councilman Keady for standing up for the least among us,
>     in our communities.
>      
>     I stand with him and rely upon the following scriptures of
>     Christian faith:
>      
>     Matt: 25:35 and following.
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     I would also point out something you need to consider.
>      
>     Before you take on such a legal battle, you need to realize what
>     it has cost the taxpayers of the City of Long Branch to fight The
>     Lighthouse Mission here.  The ongoing litigation is in it's 7 th
>     year.  You being a citizen driven private dollar venture - it will
>     cost you more.  Having the City Council ask the City Attorney to
>     file an amicus will now cost your tax payers as well.
>      
>     The expert damages report for the Lighthouse Mission is in excess
>     of $3,000,000.00 and growing and this does not include the legal
>     costs associated with the litigation. 
>      
>     The Department of Justice's Civil Right's Division will most
>     likely defend the mission and you will cost additional tax payers
>     dollars, because tax payers fund the DOJ.
>      
>     Obviously the gay community of Asbury is grinding a single issue -
>     all because the shelter will not house homeless gay men.  However,
>     practical operations of any institutionalised organization
>     prudently provides services in shelters seperately.  A men's
>     shelter does not serve women.  Nor does a women's shelter provide
>     for men.  If the gay community really wanted to do the right thing
>     and save themselves a lot of money, they would open a gay men's
>     shelter.
>      
>     I am saying this with all due respect.  If you wanted to arbitrate
>     some resolve I would be willing to play Jesse Jackson for you guys
>     in this issue. 
>      
>     God Bless Us All.
>      
>     Reverend Kevin Brown
>     Lighthouse Mission
>     Long Branch, NJ
>
>  



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