TraderDube,
First of all, why is it that People on here are too cowardly to even sign what
they write with at least a first name, so that one can feel like they're
writing back to a Human Being?
But Dube, since you don't know me, it's ridiculous to assume that " I can tell
you that the asburysteves of the world, though well intentioned, have
eyes only on their agenda and do not care about everyone who live and
work in
To the contrary, I care about the Residents, all of them, the Homeowners, the
Business Owners and the People who work here! In fact, I have made it a habit
to stop at every business that I can and welcome the new business people into
town, particularly at the First Saturdays, and when the Boardwalk Businesses
got started last year! I have also sent out letters to every Religious
Organization in the City, inviting a Meeting and Dialogue, and have been to at
least 5 Churches other than my own for Services at times!
You mentioned that "Last Saturday morning, as I pulled up to the
theater with my top down, just as I turned off my engine and opened my
door I got a shout out from a skin head with swastika tattoos who placed
himself between me and my open car door."
More than likely, that skin head was from out of town, not a Resident!
Fact of the matter, I lived for two years at
Although you'll go and call me Idealistic, I'd actually like to see Everyone
live in Harmony and Peace in
Dube, your Title was right, but the People behind the Eight Ball are the Poor
...... Not you!
Why don't you try and act like a Humane Person, and see beyond the
"Cover" to the underlying causes of WHY there are Street People? Fact
of the matter is, the Rich WANT to turn everyone like us against each other so
that they can go about their own way, and screw Everybody, without People even
Knowing that they're getting screwed!
By the way, you DID prove one thing that another person mistakenly indicated
..... That Crime is alive and well ... Chris said it's "MUCH better than
10 years ago"! Truth is, the harassments and Violent types of Crimes
have escalated quite noticeably ever since the Redevelopment Started! As I
mentioned to Chris, Crime ROSE for 3-4 Years in a row when Jordon was the
Police Director! But it wasn't solely his fault, in fact, it was hardly
his fault at ALL! You CAN blame the Council back then, because THEY set
up the Conditions which bred the extra Crime, and three of them STILL
are! As YOU said " It is the responsibility of
all levels of our gov't, starting with our
city manager and council, to alleviate this problem." And they have FAILED to do so
for 5 Years now!
You also said "To
stop the spread of homelessness, to stop the
street violence, to make OUR city safe for everyone who wishes to walk
it's streets is going to take a combined herculean effort of every
decent and caring citizen in and around
That's a REALLY Phenomenal Statement which I agree with 100%! The ONLY
Problem is that 98% of the People involved directly with the Redevelopment , or
it's fallout affects are NOT " decent and caring citizens ". For the most
part, they are horrible Human Beings who ONLY Care about themselves and their
Bank Accounts! Larry Fishman most likely won't even STEP Into Asbury Park
again after the Redevelopment's over! He'll HAVE all his Millions by
then!
The thing that you don't understand, Dube, is that until we get the "Big
Three" things I've mentioned hundreds of times before enacted here in
- Rent Control
- Affordable Housing
(Multi-Tier)
- A Jobs Program Creating
Living Wage Jobs for
Asbury Park
In
the meantime, DUBE, you'll have to endure the People who are being Screwed
getting in your face when you go out! It was actually MUCH better in 1996
around town, although many of the People on this Site weren't here then!
By the way, Dube, a Friend of mine, Rita Marano, owns the Deli about 75-100 ft
from the Corner which you eluded to (4th & Kingsley). She's 76, and
survives quite alright going there every day!
No offense, but you may have a LOT more Tunnel Vision than I'm even Capable
of! Seems that you're mostly interested in your OWN Welfare only!
Steve
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Asbury Yahoo group has finally, after 24 or so months, woken and
> become what it set out to be, a place where anyone can come and express
> their opinions about AP and kick the can to see what's happening inside
> it. That is a very good thing.
>
> This homeless, save the poor people discussion has been interesting to
> say the least. I wonder why the homeless/poor folk advocates don't
> believe that Section 8 IS EFFING LOW INCOME HOUSING? The state pays 80+%
> of these peoples rent, they pay the security deposit, they get food
> stamps, and there is no control, so many living under this subsidized
> housing get to work under the table and many therefore make a damned
> decent living?
> I wonder why these same advocates are not alarmed at the rate at which
> these poor homeless and subsidized accost those of us who live and work
> in Asbury without so much as a smile or a scintilla of grace as they bum
> cigarettes, money and/or some other service, often barging in on
> whatever we might be doing.
>
> I wonder if these advocates ever take their precious time and hang out
> on 4th and Kingsley for a day to see just what goes on with these poor
> people who plight's they so firmly place upon our shoulders? I will tell
> you that between the Bowling Alley and the newly opened Baronet, we get
> accosted a minimum of 12 times a day with varying degrees of fright
> shoved down our throats. Last Saturday morning, as I pulled up to the
> theater with my top down, just as I turned off my engine and opened my
> door I got a shout out from a skin head with swastika tattoos who placed
> himself between me and my open car door. I was sure I was going to get
> cut or worse. He wanted money, demanded it, but I shakingly said no. If
> I gave him the two bucks he wanted, I would have become the equivalent
> of a repeat customer.
>
> I am sorry, but these people living in dire straits are not my fault,
> they are only my problem, and the bowling alleys problem, and the few
> other businesses that they prey on. No one will return to the Baronet
> if every time they get out of their car to see a movie they get accosted
> by a filthy, savage looking wreck of a human being. And just to hammer
> the point home, allowing another homeless retreat to open in the city
> that dumps these people on the street every morning is going to
> compound this problem that is already way out of control.
>
> So, along the waterfront we not only have to battle the diabolical
> intentions of the inept asbury partners, we now have to battle the inept
> and futile efforts of the asburysteves of this great nation, who see
> through rose colored glasses and have tunnel vision when it comes to
> understanding what is really going on on the streets of Asbury Park.
>
> It is the responsibility of all levels of our gov't, starting with our
> city manager and council, to alleviate this problem. When you add in
> the gang violence that exploded on weds night, it is easy to see that
> the problem has escalated far beyond control of Reidy, our council and
> our fine police force. To stop the spread of homelessness, to stop the
> street violence, to make OUR city safe for everyone who wishes to walk
> it's streets is going to take a combined herculean effort of every
> decent and caring citizen in and around Asbury Park. To unite all these
> people will take a true leader. We can only pray that someone on the
> council or who has a position in city hall has the balls and the
> chutzpah to lead us above the mire we are so firmly stuck in. I can tell
> you that the asburysteves of the world, though well intentioned, have
> eyes only on their agenda and do not care about everyone who live and
> work in asbury park. Save the homeless, how about saving the home bound
> who are afraid to walk out their doors for fear of getting mugged, shot,
> raped, or worse!
>
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