Mario when I'm done with a book I pack it away. I'm sorry but I'm
not going to spend what little home time I can get my hands on these
days going to the attic to find it, then reading through that
gigantic tome the narcissist Wilson wrote about himself, to satisfy
you with a page number. Go to the library and read it.
Here is an incentive: I'll pay you $100.00 if it isn't in there. My
money is where my mouth is. Satisfied?
Your post below is typical of the mainstream media - they get to say
who conservatives are, not the conservatives. We're quite used to
it. Watch when Rush or Hannity or Coulter or Malkin write a BEST
SELLER and they won't get invited on any morning news show on CBS,
NBC or ABC. Let someone like Al Franken write one, and they have
him on every broadcast news show for a week.
Andrew Sullivan? He worked tirelessly for John Kerry. Of course
you like him. Just because he calls himself conservative does not
mean he is one. If any TV show really wanted a conservative pundit
on they would have me, not him.
Rush is the guy most maligned by people who don't listen to him.
Great thinker. A secular thinker who gets lumped in with the
religious (not that there is anything wrong with religious thinkers,
but if libs are going to lump folks together do it right).
Look, I promised this board I wouldn't do this here. It is an Asbury
Park Board. No one wants this left/right stuff from me here. I want
to be polite and respect that.
I invite you to move this discussion to my blog.
Tommy.
www.JustifiedRight.com
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Tommy,
> Still waiting for that page number (edition would help too).
> ==========================
>
> In reference to:
>
>
> Mario I bet you were surprised to learn that guys like the
President and I
> read books by left wingers and about the left.
>
> You, OK, if you say so; but "by the left" and "about the left" are
quite
> different.
>
> The other guy? Maybe now he's a "born-again" reader because he
claims to
> have read 60 books this year. Bush said Jesus is his favorite
philosopher;
> that's one left winger at least.
> ==============================
>
>
> I read as many works by the left as I can get my hands on, from
the past to
> today's
> pundits. All my conservative friends do as well. ...
> This is contrary to your many posts on this board that
conservatives are
> closed minded, lock step, not respectful of others
views, ....Sorry to
> disappoint you but conservative views aren't formed by talk radio
hosts (it's just
> trumpeted there).
> Not all conservatives (Some of my best friends are...); you mainly
in
> Rove/Rush mode.
>
> I have gone out of my way, in personal emails to you, to indicate
my respect
> for traditional conservative thought:
>
> From 10/12
> More importantly, I just think it is a shame that while you have
the
> "pulpit" in triCity, you fail to use it to justify (and educate
your readers to)
> issues really sacred to the traditional right wing. Instead
you're mimicking the
> likes of Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Rush and that ilk; besides,
I think the
> public is quickly tiring of that polarizing schtick. Have you
reviewed
> lately any real American conservative thinkers: Wm. F. Buckley,
Barry Goldwater,
> etc.?
> See "Slothful Conservatism" in follow up email. [Slothful
Conservatism is
> about Wm. F. Buckleyâs critique of the current administration]
> Also HBO is currently airing a great documentary on Goldwater.
>
> From 10/13
>
> I recommend Republican John Danforth on C-SPAN 2's BookTV.
>
> After Words: John Danforth, author of "Faith & Politics: How the
Moral
> Values Debate Divides America and How to Move Forward Together"
interviewed by
> Charles Haynes, senior scholar at The First Amendment Center .
>
> From 10/14
>
> Tommy said: "I know it is easy to believe that people that are
conservative
> are mean...."
>
> I responded: "What is it with you? You really don't read with
comprehension
> or memory of what someone says. I consistently point out
conservatives whom I
> admire (Buckley, Goldwater, Brooks, Tierney, and other non-mud
wallowers on
> the right). And more and more people on the right are
demonstrating their
> integrity and patriotism these days by breaking from the party
line now that our
> country's foreign policy... (I digress.) Instead you focus on
trivialities
> said about you and then react like a victim. Your rhetoric is AM
radio
> Rush/Rove/Coulter stuff, and I sincerely believe that, after 20ish
years of that,
> it is hurting our country--Big Time."
>
> From 10/15
>
> Tommy, Andrew Sullivan is another conservative voice I'm intrigued
by. He
> will be on C-Span (Cablevision channel 65) tonight at 8 and 11,
also tomorrow at
> 6 am.
> =======================================
>
>
> Have you read any books by George Will, Bill Bennett, Rush,
Coulter or
> Malkin?
>
> George Will is a genuine man of reason on the right. I know him
well as a
> TV pundit and always pay heed to what he has to say.
>
> Bennett is too self-righteous and smug for my tastes; he's also a
hypocrite.
>
> Rush, Coulter and Malkin? You jest! Throw in BOR too (Bill
O'Reilly).
> Serious political thinkers? Fuggedabodit! These are all part of
a huge
> propaganda machine and major contributors to the "poisoned well"
of politics today. I
> don't read David Duke or Ralph Reed or Jerry Falwell either. Why
not ask
> about them too? Same types.
>
> ===============================
> Are you up to date in your reading? Conservative David Brooks in
calling
> for Barack Obama to run for president says of Obama: His
âstyle is surely the
> antidote to the politics of the past several years. It is surely
true that a
> president who brings a deliberative style to the White House will
multiply
> his knowledge, not divide itâ¦.Coming from my own perspective, I
should note
> that I disagree with many of Obamaâs notions and could well end
up agreeing
> more with one of his opponents. But anyone whoâs observed him
closely can see
> that Obama is a new kind of politician. As Klein once observed,
heâs that
> rarest of creatures: a megahyped phenomenon that lives up to the
hype.
> It may not be personally convenient for him, but the times will
never again
> so completely require the gifts that he possesses. Whether
youâre liberal or
> conservative, you should hope Barack Obama runs for president.â
>
> Are you up to date in your reading? Newt's right hand man Dick
Armey on
> todays culture war conservatives: âTo a large extent because
Dobson and his gang
> of thugs are real nasty bullies. I pray devoutly every day, but
being a
> Christian is no excuse for being stupid. Thereâs a high
demagoguery coefficient to
> issues like prayer in schools. Demagoguery doesnât work unless
itâs dumb .
> . . These issues are easy for the intellectually lazy and can
appeal to a
> large demographic.â
> ===========================
> In my posts I try not to "paint with a broad brush" as you do in
your
> columns (e.g., Dummycats). I prefer to go after the Terry Sciavo
case panderers
> and right-wing religious types (referred to as "the nuts' by Rove
operatives).
>
> Goldwater and Eisenhower would spin in their graves if they read
most of
> your columns which pander to the above.
>
> "Demagoguery doesnât work unless itâs dumb . . . These issues
are easy for
> the intellectually lazy and can appeal to a large demographic.â
>
> List for me your columns which promote the principles of Buckley
> conservatism.
>
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