I can't argue with this.
Jay Leno said the same recently about the UN. Bush avoided Iran and
Venezuela. They didn't go to Bush's speech. Leno said, "Thank God
we have the UN where world leaders can get together and talk."
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> When did the world become so simplistic - so black and white -
> so "you're either with me or against me?" These posts are getting
> more and more ridiculous over the past few days.
>
> This country was built on compromise - on diverse groups with
> differing views meeting somewhere in the middle on a range of
> issues. This is what sets us apart from so many other societies
> where there is a right way to think espoused by the government and
a
> wrong way to think that can get you put in jail or even killed.
> Nobody has a patent on being right.
>
> Yet the political climate nationally, at the state and local level
> and even in places like this board is one of total disregard for
> others views. Republicans and Democrats in Congress don't even
talk
> to each other and rather than disagreeing demonize each other
> personally - no wonder nothing gets done. The same thing happens
> here. Many people on both sides of the arguments, from political
to
> redevelopment to pretty much any topic at all, totally and
> completely abuse and denegrate personally anyone who sees things
> differently from themselves. It is neither productive or fun.
>
> Case in point... Both Tom and Jim (and those in either camp) have
> very valid points regarding the shooting and how to address this.
> But everyone is too busy taking the opposing extremes and crapping
> on each other to take a step back and understand the perspectives
> each side brings and the validity of each argument.
>
> I don't agree with Jim Keady most of the time and did not vote for
> him, nor would I based on his views. That said, from anything
> credible I've ever heard or seen he is a principled guy who is
> trying to do what he believes is the right thing. And he is right
> when he links crime to the lack of productive activities for the
> kids in this town. In my opinion the long-term solution to our
> problems must be solved by trying to keep good kids from going
bad.
> Rather than a productive argument, some of the things that have
been
> written about him, particularly by Tom, on this board are beyond
> nasty, and border on ridiculous. Rather than take on his views he
> is being castigated as a person.
>
> That said, I virtually never agree with Tom on anything he says or
> writes. But in my opinion he is also right when he says that in
> this particular case the guy was scum. You don't commit this
crime
> without being an evil person. A heavy police effort is also
> necessary to solve this problem in the short term. Because this
> situation is what it is, and there needs to be long-term solutions
> and short-term enforcement.
>
> Both are right. They are just solving different components of the
> problem. A problem that will never really be solved with either
> enforcement or recreation alone. And everyone is too busy saying
> nasty things about each other to really step back and see it.
>
> The (admittedly too long-winded) point is let's cut through the
crap
> and vile comments and start actually reading beyond the author of
> the emails to the actual points being made. Maybe if we could
dial
> back on the BS a little bit we'd actually find ways of making a
> difference in this town. Or we could all just write really nasty
> things about each other. Because that's all this has really
become,
> isn't it.
>
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