Maybe Bob Woodward got the title of his new book State of Denial from Tommy.

Although the book is about the White House, surely Tommy epitomizes that condition.

 

Despite Dan's find, "Here is a copy of a letter to the NYT Sports Editor from a person who actually listened to the broadcast in Germany,"

and mine from the German sports writer Roy Kammerer (with the Associated Press, based in Berlin),

Tommy retorts with a mantra that he clings to with white knuckles:

 

 


I've read enough books on boxing to know that there is some dispute on the matter, like what you print from the NY Times below.

However, I come down on the side of the those who say they were
there and the radio was cut.

Take a look at your source there. It was someone writing in 1988
and remembering back to when he was 13. Memories fade.

 
 
Cordiali saluti,


 
========Original Message========

Subj: [AsburyPark] Re: Louis v Schmeling; DeStefano v DeSeno
Date: 10/29/2006 1:15:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent on:   

Regarding the radio:

You might remember Dan that Mario chided me for having in my
column "Legend has it" that the radio broadcast was cut.

I've read enough books on boxing to know that there is some dispute
on the matter, like what you print from the NY Times below.

However, I come down on the side of the those who say they were
there and the radio was cut.

Take a look at your source there. It was someone writing in 1988
and remembering back to when he was 13. Memories fade.

Saying "Legend has it" is appropriate when introducing a disputed
matter, but make no mistake I'm not backpeddling - my view is that
it occured (besides, even Keady's precious Wiki says it happened, so
who am I to argue?).

Are you quite certain I'm wrong about the Bradley lawsuit? Ater all
your source is an Obit from the NY Times, which isn't an
investigative article. There are plenty of false positives when
investigating history, particularly if you want to find them (which
is why I keep saying you can't have an agenda and be a historian).
You have to be careful of the source.

This is from the Monmouth County Historical Society:

"In 1902 the City of Asbury Park brought suit against Bradley for
control of his beach front property. Bradley lost the suit and sold
the property to the city for $100,000 -- much less than its
appraised value. At the same time, he sold the city the sewerage
system for $50,000."

Certainly puts the matter of whether suit was filed back in dispute,
doesn't it?

I'll tell you what I'll do. I'm in Freehold Monday. I'll see if I
can dig up records on the suit, if there is any.

Not that it matters anyway. The topic was did Bradley benevolently
want the people to have the Beachfront. If after reading everything
you uploaded from the Times you don't see the answer is obviously
no, he did not want them to have it, then there is no convincing you.

I think you are a fair person. You must see that if you are making
a conclusion about what Bradley wanted based upon those facts, the
only supported conclusion is that he wanted to keep it for himself.

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED].> wrote:
>
> Two knockouts. Here is a copy of a letter to the NYT Sports Editor
> from a person who actually listened to the broadcast in Germany.
The
> winner - Mario!. However, it seems a lot of people including the
NYT
> got it wrong, so I can't hold it against Tommy. However, I know
that
> is not Mario's point. Tommy is very quick to point the finger, yet
> slow to admit that he too has feet of clay, as we do all.
>
> Tom, still waiting for your stance on gay marriage. Also, you
> emphatically stated that the City took the beach and other lands
> from Bradley by court action. Not true no matter how you spin it.
> You misconstrue what Werner was saying on the radio with regard to
> Bradley and segregation of AP. Bradley didn't invent segregation
or
> racism. He was acting like MOST white people at the time. The post
> of the fight broadcast below:
>
> July 3, 1988
> No Knockout Of Broadcast
> LEAD: To the Sports Editor:
>
> To the Sports Editor:
>
> ''The Title Fight That Was Bigger Than Boxing'' (The Times, June
19)
> was of great interest to me. You write, ''Part of the postfight
> lore . . . is that the German broadcast of the bout was cut off
> before the fight ended.'' It was not.
>
> As 13-year-old students at the Jewish boarding school Internat
> Hirsch at Coburg, Germany, and interested in heavyweight boxing,
we
> asked to be awakened at 1 A.M. that day to hear the fight. Some of
> the kids missed it because it was over before they got to the
radio.
>
> I have never forgotten the German announcer's plea: ''Get up, get
up
> Maxie, please get up - oh no, oh no - stay down - it's over!''
Weeks
> before, the German newspapers showed pictures of Louis's right
thumb
> as being overly long as well as other statistics to imply unfair
> advantage over Schmeling.
>
> We applauded Louis's victory as a ray of hope for us. We had grown
> up among Nazi pomp and muscle flexing, witnessing repeated
> accommodations of the West to Hitler and almost believing that
they
> were unbeatable and that all others - including ourselves -were as
> inferior and weak as they wanted us to believe. LUDWIG (LARRY)
STEIN
> Chappaqua, N.Y.
>

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