I'll agree with you partially, but he is definitely the catylyst for much of
the negativity that
has dominated this board.
I don't think it's really going to be possible to find the true number of gang
members in
AP. Even giving away the source of such info might be risky, and it might
expose
somebody who is working undercover, or some other informant.
I honestly don't think that focusing on that number really means anything. The
bigger
picture is the gangs, and violence and crime, which in my opinion is the #1
problem that
our city faces.
Jack
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I disagree that the Tom is to blame. One issue is when someone does not
> share the
same opinion as those who monopolize the board. I have raised questions about
the 200
Blood count, the plan for obtaining tourism and items reported on Asbury radio.
These
three examples have gone unanswered. Rather than people asking for the
questions they
jump on things like the Casino is not rebuilt. Yes we all want the buildings
to sparkle but
there are many issues. Tom has supplied many answers and raised good
questions.
Placing blame solely on him is incorrect.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:56:20 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
>
> I think that the anger and viciousness that JK's wife is talking about is
> destroying this
> message board.
> Before Tommy came on board, this was a fun place to visit, but since then
> it's been
about
> one thing, and one thing only.
> It's got to stop.
> And another thing, getting your information from the Asbury Park Press is a
> big
mistake.
> Please stop this smear campaign.
> You know what would be great, if people start talking about Asbury as a whole
> again,
and
> stop focusing on the just one issue.
> And Tommy, I think you should leave, before you do more damage to your
> credibility.
> You still have your website and the TCN to spread your opinions. Stop
> poisoning this
> place.
> Please?
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "kretzu" <lekretzu@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council meeting,
> > so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by the
> > Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside in
> > an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund. Following
> > that, the community could come forth with proposals for programming
> > or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which
> > proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this up to
> > the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor Sanders
> > argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and Nancy
> > Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at the
> > West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to
> > meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former
> > Executive Director, director of fundraising and others.
> > Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers.
> >
> > On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that the
> > amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom
> > DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim Bruno)
> > has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote a
> > personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear to have made
> > a difference. Criticizing an elected official's policies is good and
> > everyone has a right and duty to do that. But Tom has been lying
> > about the facts in order to turn public opinion against an elected
> > official in a place that he doesn't even call home.
> >
> > This shouldn't be the Rush Limbaugh show. Asbury Park is 1 square
> > mile and more or less, we all know each other. I know the colleges
> > that Jim Bruno's daughter was looking at last year. And Jim and I
> > went to see Tom DeSeno's kids in Scrooged last Christmas. So when,
> > on this board, you get nasty and lie or manipulate the facts, it's
> > personal and it's deeply, deeply hurtful.
> >
> > Leslie Kretzu
> > 608 Cookman Avenue
> >
> >
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright"
> > <justifiedright@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > Kevin are you intentionally missing the point? No one is saying
> > they
> > > don't want to give the West Side Community Center $100,000.00.
> > >
> > > But you can't give away $100,000.00 to a private company on a
> > > motion, on a matter that isn't on the agenda.
> > >
> > > Please tell me you know that - you've run for office yourself.
> > >
> > > Jack - Kevin's post is a perfect example of why it was a cheap
> > > trick. Because there are people out there like Kevin, they will
> > > think that only Keady wanted to help the West Side because he
> > rasied
> > > the motion and the others didn't becuase they didn't support the
> > > motion, when in fact they couldn't because it was procedurally
> > wrong.
> > >
> > > Kevin proves the point more perfectly than I could say it.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Kevin Brown" <jerseykev@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and should
> > not
> > > be
> > > > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in these
> > > matters.
> > > >
> > > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council
> > > members
> > > > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too.
> > > >
> > > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently the
> > > > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the question
> > you
> > > > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a decision
> > > > until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your
> > > concrete
> > > > opinion well known.
> > > >
> > > > Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token
> > > amount.
> > > > The West Side has needed proper funding for many years.
> > > >
> > > > Turn your own tables over for a minute. Having Keady chair,
> > > should
> > > > make the transaction more palatable, unless you do not trust
> > keady?
> > > >
> > > > I say this to Giordano in Long Branch all the time; "You have to
> > > > decide whether you want to be a councilman or a banker, whenever
> > > his
> > > > bank and his role as a councilman/developm ent agent conflict. He
> > > has
> > > > yet to get the message, and remains in questionable status
> > between
> > > > his Bank and His elected office.
> > > >
> > > > You on the other hand - can not dare represent a nuetral tone
> > > between
> > > > the 4 councilman in with the MOB and the one outside (Keady) when
> > > you
> > > > are being paid by the inside MOB!
> > > >
> > > > (My MOB reference is likened to a madding crowd and not the
> > > sicilian
> > > > black hand of corruption in local towns and governments. )
> > > >
> > > > These are just my thoughts, and you should take them beyond a
> > > grain
> > > > of salt and a dash of tobasco!
> > > >
> > > > The best way for harmony to come to the asbury park council is to
> > > > recall one of the 4 and add another member like Keady. That will
> > > > give you some protection from the status quo of the last decade.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > KB
> > > > www.asburyparknj. com
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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