You are absolutely right. And, it's the pre-Bruce Asbury that I for one miss so
much.
On a table next to my couch I have that Helen Chantal Pike book as well as
another, filled
with photos of Asbury in it's heyday. That's what I miss and love.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote:
> >
> >
> Asbury Park was well known before Bruce. Greetings From AP came from
> one of our Postcards. Bruce borrowed it. Bruce skyrocked our music
> but not our city. Back in the day all the big named bands played
> here. From the 40's to the 70's. Moe Septie brought rock and roll to
> the Convention Hall here in the 60's and 70's well before the Pony.
> The Stones, The Who, etc etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I think what you are missing is that the whole S.O.A.P thing wasn't
> for you, or me. It was a
> > moment to honor a group of musicians who contributed to something
> years ago.
> > Why not let them have their moment in the sun without dumping on
> them?
> > There were no promises of Bruce showing up. Of course there would
> be rumors that he
> > would show, but if you spent the bucks to buy a ticket just for
> that reason, who's fault is
> > that? Who are we to judge where he was that night? If you were one
> of those musicians
> > honored by this event, and you read the BS in the TCN, how would
> you feel?
> > I guess feelings about the Pony are subjective. I hadn't been there
> in ages, but a few weeks
> > ago I went to the Asbury Music Awards. I had a great time. It
> didn't smell. The sound was
> > great (although I could've done better) and it was just plain great
> to be in a place where I
> > somewhat grew up in musically speaking.
> > I do agree about Bruce being the catalyst for the rest of the world
> knowing about AP. Just
> > take a ride into AP this holiday season, and you'll see Greetings
> From Asbury Park in lights.
> > That phrase is known the world over because of Bruce. But, that
> doesn't mean you need to
> > belittle other lesser known musicians that come from a time when he
> was coming up in
> > the ranks.
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube <traderdube@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hinge my boy, I just knew you were going to rant over Danny boys
> > > anti-Soap rant. I read the article and I am not ashamed to say
> that for
> > > all intents and purposes, I agree with Dan. A plaque on the
> boardwalk is
> > > almost as big a pile of krap as the save tillie thing. Cutting
> that face
> > > out of that building was as stupid as anything the city of asbury
> park
> > > and asbury partners have done. Ranks up there with destroying the
> copper
> > > peanut kettles they found in the old planters concession. What
> Danny boy
> > > didn't say in his poignant rant was that the SOAP thing, although
> a
> > > brilliant bit of promotion by 2 long forgotten bar band warriors,
> was a
> > > rip off and a half. Without the "promises" that Bruce was going
> to play,
> > > and the adverts and rumors were plain that he was going to play,
> I
> > > seriously doubt that marks would pay 1500 bucks to get into the
> > > crumbling smelly old stone pony.
> > >
> > > Bruce was so in to the SOAP affair that he didn't show, but the
> very
> > > next night, he and his bride enjoyed a marvelous hour and forty
> five
> > > minute set by the queen of rockabilly, Wanda Jackson. The SOAP
> thing is
> > > a such a pipe dream, these bands were cover bands and they
> covered any
> > > song that the crowds would dance to, we danced ion those days.
> The blunt
> > > reality is that without Bruce and his music fueling Asbury Park
> all
> > > these years, the tillie lovers and the SOAP stars and many many
> memories
> > > simply would not exist. It all starts and stops on Bruce's
> doorstop,
> > > especially the careers of his band mates and Southside. Now
> maybe, just
> > > maybe, one Johnny Bongiovanni may have also elevated Asbury Park
> to it's
> > > international status as a musical mecca, but then the Pony would
> be long
> > > ago tore down and The Fast Lane would be where all the German
> Nationals
> > > come to take pictures.
> > >
> > > I have to agree with Fred. The Stone Pony died the day Butch sold
> it, it
> > > is a fire trap, uncomfortable, and yes, it needs to come down,
> but, it
> > > will be replaced by a new and modern Stone Pony and that is a
> good thing.
> > >
> > > Same deal with Tillie. As stupid as I personally believe the save
> tille
> > > organization was, their persistence, fueled by Bruce, paid off
> > > handsomely for Asbury Park 2 summers ago when Tille was saved.
> However,
> > > tillie wasn't saved by cutting the face out of the palace, tillie
> was
> > > saved by the events that followed that cutting. Because AP
> Partners and
> > > the city made a deal with GMC to shoot a Chevy Corvette
> commercial with
> > > the palace and the face of Mr. Tilyou in the background. Lo and
> behold,
> > > when the director of the photo shoot hit kingsley and cookman, he
> was
> > > mildly disappointed to fine tillie was out of there. As he slowly
> drove
> > > his car down Ocean ave, tracing the route of what was once the
> circuit,
> > > he spied the south end of the wonder bar and an idea hit him. He
> pulled
> > > over and the manager of the wonder bar, Kevin Feehan, after a
> busy
> > > night, was cleaning up outside the wb that morning when the
> director
> > > inquired if he could paint Tillie on the wb and shoot his
> commercial.
> > > It took 10 minutes of negotiating, but sure enough, by that
> afternoon 3
> > > artists out of Keyport were busy atop scaffolding recreating Mr.
> > > Tilyou's silly mug on the wonder bar. A couple days later we got
> a call
> > > from the save tillie folks wanting to have a save tillie benefit
> at the
> > > wonder bar. We agreed with one caveat. It wasn't a save tillie
> event, it
> > > was a _*celebrate*_ tillie event. We did a mock new orleans
> funeral down
> > > the boardwalk, complete with horns, and we had DaysAwake playing
> ion the
> > > wonder bar when the procession hit ocean and 5th ave. The rest of
> the
> > > day and night were memorable for many reasons, but the bottom
> line was
> > > and is that Tillie, a new tillie, re-appeared in Asbury Park for
> the 1st
> > > time in many many years.
> > > And for some of us who have been here for these many many years
> of decay
> > > and waste, having a new tillie lit up on ocean ave was the 1st
> positive
> > > step in a long time for asbury park.
> > >
> > > So, yeah, I agree, saving tillie was nonsensical, but then, who
> knew
> > > saving Tillie would end up possibly saving the wonder bar and
> other
> > > ancient treasures in the city of asbury park
> > >
> > > Last thing while I am ranting. I am very impressed with the way
> the
> > > waterfront is coming together. Though inconvenienced for a few
> weeks,
> > > they got ocean ave done by the wonder bar very quickly, and the
> street
> > > in front of the Berkeley is almost done. The work is non stop at
> the
> > > Esperanza and both paramount and Westminster are moving along and
> > > looking good. Around the rest of asbury, so many new projects are
> > > closing in on finishing over the next 3-6 months, it is simply
> amazing.
> > > How steel buildings are going up, how many new businesses will
> soon be
> > > joining in the fray. Pretty soon, the only thing that will stand
> between
> > > asbury and true success is a couple of parking decks. Without
> those
> > > decks, asbury stands no chance as a retail location for anyone
> but locals.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, on the 200 block of 4th ave, this past weekend, all
> three
> > > establishments, The Asbury Lanes, The Fast Lane, and The Baronet
> were
> > > open for business. IT has been a long long time since that was
> the case.
> > > Now, if we can only figure out how to make some money on 4th ave,
> all
> > > would be good, all would be good.
> > >
> >
>
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