--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Go to his web site he stated back in 2005 he wants to open a soup kitchen in AP.>
I hope this guy is voted OUT! > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: rogerpoulard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 3:52:19 PM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Pedophiles at the Market Street Mission > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" > <justifiedright@ ...> wrote: > > > > Welcome Roger. > > > > I don't know about 7 homeless shelters, but there were not zero > > either. > > > > The state lists Interfaith Neighbors as an emergency shelter. I > > don't know if that is right, but if not, they should notify the > > state. > > The information I got on that was from Jim Keady's blog in July of 06. > Here's the quote: > "In their literature, the group "Stand Up For Asbury" wrongly states > that, "There are 7 other shelters in Asbury Park that have overnight > sleeping quarters for the homeless." And the Coaster printed that > information in their July 13th edition without any fact-checking, I > later learned. There are not 7 shelters in Asbury Park. There are > currently NO shelters in Asbury Park that offer overnight sleeping > quarters for the homeless. There are seven agencies that offer > services for the homeless and transitional residential housing for > specific populations (abused women, HIV/AIDS, etc.) but there is no > agency currently operating in Asbury Park that would meet the loosest > definition of a homeless shelter." > > > > > Also, I know City Hall was running a homeless shelter recently, > > which I did see with my own eyes. > > > > > > I went and interviewed some of the people at the City Hall shelter. > > Not one of them was from Asbury. One even told me that cops as far > > away as New Brunswick were buying the homeless train tickets to > > Asbury Park to send the homeless to our shelter. That's how he had > > gotten here. Your concerns in that regard are well founded. > > Well, here's my concern - if this is happening and we can document it, > why isn't Asbury Park taking action to make the other municipalities > take care of their own homeless issue. Why isn't Asbury Park suing New > Brunswick to recover the costs of taking care of this homeless > situation? What is the city government doing to have this addressed at > the state level in Trenton? > > > > > Regarding your quotes about the amount of sex offenders in the area > > now - I don't see how that helps your case here. If we had no rapes > > in Asbury Park, then I could see your point. Since we do have rapes > > each year, I think citing those statistics supports my argument that > > we should not be attracting more rapists. > > > > The problem is putting these folks in a residential neighborhood. > > It shouldn't be. This little beach town has done enough. Time for > > someone else to do some heavy lifting. > > According to the Stand Up For Asbury website, the area is zoned for > "Light Industrial" and not residential. Although there is housing > nearby (in a city of 1.4 square miles, I don't see how its possible > for there not to be) it is not being placed in a zoned residential area. > > I think my statistics may support an argument for ordinances to > prohibit sex offenders for living within a certain distance of a > school or park but not for the creation of a homeless shelter. The > city could work with MSM to create a shelter that will have a positive > outcome for our homeless population. > > Although I would love other municipalities in this area to do heavy > lifting, it's pretty apparent that nobody else is willing to. Maybe > its my catholic background, but I just don't think we should stop > helping because we've "done enough" as a community. Most people that > have moved to Asbury Park in the past was well aware of these problems > before they bought property here... and just because a ton of money > and fresh paint finds its way to the streets of Asbury doesn't mean > that the problems just disappear either. > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "rogerpoulard" <rogerpoulard@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > I've lived in Asbury Park for about a year now. I've been > > attracted to > > > this community because of its mix and seeming compassion for the > > less > > > fortunate that live here. I haven't followed the Market Street > > Mission > > > project terribly closely but I've kept my eye on it. Because I > > support > > > it, mostly. > > > > > > I had some concerns about the "Stand Up For Asbury" organization > > from > > > the beginning. When I went to the website, they originally talked > > > about there being seven homeless shelters in Asbury Park, an > > > overestimation by seven. Once I discovered that, there was little > > on > > > that website I felt I could believe. > > > > > > There are reservations that I feel towards this specific > > > organization' s plans - especially in the area of religious > > inculcation > > > to house homeless people in need of a bed, but its something I can > > > live with. I also have concerns with bussing in other homeless > > people, > > > especially if it is at the expense of the homeless population in > > > Asbury Park, which is pretty sizeable for the size of our city. > > > > > > I think that there are a lot of concerns that can be mediated out > > with > > > the construction of a homeless shelter in Asbury - no matter who > > the > > > operators are, by creating a set of regulations to abide by in our > > > city. Helping to create something that can give some respite to our > > > own homeless issue can be a positive for our community, and dare I > > > suggest, may also reduce the amount of human crap found in our > > parks - > > > as I've read about on this list. > > > > > > As for fearing sex offenders jumping into Asbury for "ripe > > pickings" > > > as some people would like to think is going to happen... there are > > > currently 31 Sex Offenders currently living in the Asbury Park > > area. > > > There are 20 more in Ocean Grove/Neptune Township. Those are just > > the > > > ones that we know about. Is there a chance that more sex offenders > > > will end up within our city limits due to this homeless shelter? > > Yes. > > > But put a new playground in somewhere, and we probably run a > > similar > > > risk. > > > > > > Decisions to make this project a reality in AP should be based on > > > whether or not it will help our own homeless population problem, > > and > > > whether or not we can work with the mission's program to create a > > > system that will be a net positive to our city. So, my unanswered > > > question is this: how receptive have the Market Street Mission folk > > > been to working with the city to create a homeless shelter program > > > that will benefit all of us? Or is this an avenue we've left > > unexplored? > > > > > > Roger Poulard > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright" > > > > <justifiedright@ > wrote: > > > > > One of these scumbags raped a girl less than 13 years old. > > The > > > > > other raped an adult woman. > > > > > > > > > > Neither one of these guys committed their crimes in > > Morristown. Not > > > > > even in Morris County. Yet these predators found their way to > > > > > Morristown why? Because the shelter attracted them there. > > > > > > > > > > The shelter in Asbury will attract the same kind of pedophilia > > > > > rapists here, and the Mission will let them in. > > > > > > > > I have been awol for a while. On trial for 2 weeks. I'm with you > > on > > > > this Tom. Mission is bad for AP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. > http://new.mail.yahoo.com > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
