Hello  [EMAIL PROTECTED],
In reference to your  comment: 

It's just two different  views.
Yeah, but yours are concrete, reasonable, and evident (i.e., huge crowds  for 
music events even during the worst periods).  Same for Werner's  historic 
preservation arguments.  
 
I don't recall any similarly strong arguments from those who favor the  craze 
for encrusted condos.

 
And for the record, Hinge, I do appreciate your enthusiastic posts when  good 
things happen here.


========Original  Message========     Subj: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury was 
rock city this weekend  Date: 3/27/2007 11:17:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time  
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED])   To: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com)   Sent on:    

On Mar 27, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Hinge  wrote:

> Gary and Werner,
> In your opinion, why do you think  Asbury would be negative about  
> supporting a music
> scene  in a town known for it?

There is a percentage of people who do not like  the idea of Asbury  
Park utilizing its past for whatever reasons.   Sometimes I get the  
feeling they think that tourism failed in the last  35 years when they  
really didn't do anything to help or support the  idea of tourism.  In  
fact, tourism (music foremostly) was the  primarily reason for  
outsiders to come to Asbury Park from the 80s to  2000.  Even when the  
town was at its "worst", the music fans kept  coming.

I have no idea why the town didn't want to bank on this.  I  always  
believe that towns are somewhat handed their cards and they  have to  
play what they're dealt.  I often use the  Las Vegas  as an example.   
Las Vegas tried abandoning its past and upgrading  its image about a  
decade ago.  It didn't work.  So instead  they went the other  
direction and flaunted, lampooned, and saluted  their image with "what  
happens in Vegas stays in Vegas".    They realized what worked for them.

In Asbury, there can be little doubt  that music is what works.

Look at the crowds from around the country for  Bruce Springsteen on  
the Today Show a few years back.  How about  80-100,000 on the beach  
for WNEW concerts in the late 80s and early  90s?  How about the fact  
that a newspaper story about Asbury Park  and music will be picked up  
by newspapers around the world?   (even our NJ Music Hall of Fame  
story made at least 500 newspapers  worldwide)


> Also, how is it that TriCity could have a strong  enough influence  
> to make an difference on
> this topic.  Quite often, i'm disgusted by the opinions expressed by  
> TriCity,  and I have to believe
> many others feel this way.

I'm not sure  why, but I think it does.  I think some businesses worry  
that if  they're involved with something that TriCity doesn't like  
that it will  reflect poorly on them or hurt them.  Maybe they're  
afraid that  the publisher will start attacking them the way he's  
attacking many  people personly in print (including me with his insane  
rant full of  expletives) - I can understand that to a point, but I  
agree with you  that there are a lot of people who disagree with the  
paper.  Some  even think the paper is a joke.  Yet, you can't argue  
that people  do pick it up.

All I know is that TriCity was 100% behind killing such  Asbury Park  
icons as the Palace, the Stone Pony and the Casino; they  were 100%  
behind making sure Asbury Park left its past in the past and  did not  
try to recreate what it was; they were 100% behind making sure  that a  
New Jersey Music Hall of Fame  (not "rock and roll hall of  fame" as  
Dan J. described it) would never see the light of day; and  Dan J.  
lied when he said he'd be behind saving the Upstage (the true  rock  
and roll heritage as he put it) because when he was asked to help  he  
never did anything.

Unfortunately for the businesses on  Cookman and the people in Asbury  
Park, I think Tri City is generally  wrong when they write about  
tourism.  It seems to me that they  are part of the group that wants  
Asbury Park to be just for people in  Asbury Park when others (like  
me) believe Asbury Park could be  something great (and something for  
the world).

It's just two  different views. 




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