The Warped Tour in Asbury Park was sold out at 13,000. Where do you 
get your numbers Gary? I guess it comes from inflated distribution 
numbers...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The Warped Tour brought 30,000 people to the town.  Was this 
festival  
> near those levels?
> 
> I agree with Werner.  This plan was absolutely 100% against the 
idea  
> of tourism.  It's amazing that a town with a beach, a boardwalk, 
and  
> history would abandon such features that other towns could only 
dream  
> about.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 3, 2007, at 9:22 PM, charlie wrote:
> 
> >
> > "The "Plan" was not created with attracting visitors in mind.  
> > Tourism, events,
> > etc were notconsidered or accounted for. The Beach and 
commercial  
> > components are to be for the use of the "condo dwellers"."
> >
> >      I agree, i think a lot of the boardwalk stores, food, and  
> > other attractions are aimed at being worthy enough for these  
> > million dollar condos.  There for sure will be high class 
places,  
> > aimed to please these high end condo buyers.  Although, i think  
> > many aspects of the boardwalk will catter to a typical 
boardwalk.   
> > You can have a mix of both, and claim the happiness of 
different  
> > groups all at once.
> >      With todays events, you have to wonder.  If the roadwork 
were  
> > the way it was before, would the event still have parking  
> > problems?  I say yes.  I remember a few years back when i was 
in  
> > highschool and i'd go to the Warped Tour (a concert of sorts), 
the  
> > streets were always packed with no parking.  Now this is going 
back  
> > 6 years before any roadwork had begun.  Parking appears to have  
> > always been an issue.  Now it's worse, becasue parking spaces 
were  
> > lost.  You couldnt have gained any, but you didn't have to 
loose  
> > any either.
> >      Places like The Wonder Bar and the Stone pony attrack a lot 
of  
> > cars on certain nights.  These buildings are sitting in the mist 
of  
> > a changing enviorment.  They don't seem to fit in 100 percent.  
In  
> > a few years, will they still be there?  If they arn't then 
things  
> > may go along smoothly (not sure how smooth).  But becasue they 
are  
> > still there, there almost in the way, or a blockage of sorts  
> > causing insanity.  It's not that the deisgn is bad, it's just  
> > different then what these buildings came out of.
> >      The design isn't designed in the same ways that the 
previous  
> > one was.  The Convention hall and Casino are huge buildings.   
> > However, they may not need as much parking as everyone thinks 
they  
> > will need.  Why?  Becasue from the way things were planed, its  
> > possiable these buildings were not to be used as much as they 
had  
> > been.  Not to the max, not to capacity.  But maybe below 
capacity!   
> > They can't take them down.  They know there would be hell to pay 
if  
> > they tried to, or did.  These are just thoughts..  Clearly i 
don't  
> > know any information, or claim to know what's going on!   Whats  
> > everyone else think?
> >      I like the lights, the sidewalks.  The plaza in front of  
> > Convention hall is nice.  I didn'tget my curved sidewalk around  
> > HoJo back, but i like the new courtyard a lot.  I also consider 
it  
> > to be sitll be "open space" like what was there previously.  I  
> > think that area can now hold a lot of people.  standing, 
walking  
> > thru.  Compared to before, everyone had to squeeze thrue that 
10  
> > foot wide walkway around Hojo?!  Now you can have groups of 
people  
> > coming off the sidewalk and heading straight for the boardwalk.
> >    On one side they cut back the openness.  Yet on the other, 
they  
> > opened things up in aspects.
> >
> >
> > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell.
> >
> >
>




 
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