So the fact that he was running a gambling ring and financing the entire operation doesn't bother you at all?
The fact that he enjoyed engaging in torture doesn't bother you (oh sorry, you're a neocon so that one probably doesn't bother you) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The AP Press ran a column today that raised the same issue about how > we treat humans and animals in association with the Vick > controversey. > > Yes, I say let him play football, since the rule in the NFL is that > there is no lifetime ban for killing people (see Little and Lewis). > > Imagine how their victim's families will feel if Vick gets a > lifetime ban while those 2 guys didn't. > > Aren't you offended by that hypocrisy? > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote: > > > > No Tommy, the columns title is about Vick. You say let him play > football. End of story. > > Somehow, you managed to forget that fact. Yes, you did write about > hypocrisy, and it's > > remotely possible that you raised some actual points, but you > still hooked people in with > > the headline about letting Vick play football. End of story in my > opinion. Everything else > > you wrote just made it more laughable and deplorable at the same > time. Just like you did > > about Clearwater. I'm sure your Vick article won't have the effect > you desired, and it'll > > probably help to shrink your fan base (if you think you have one) > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > > > AsburyCouple I'm really at a loss as to how the Vick column > could be > > > about me, or how it could even be controversial at all, let > alone > > > the controversy being the plan. > > > > > > All the column points out (as animal rights advocates have > pointed > > > out for years) is that in this world, we treat animals > as "special" > > > or "not special" or "protected" or "not protected" based on our > own > > > needs of the animals, not based upon anything inherent in the > animal. > > > > > > Like it or not, that creates a hypocrisy. When Vick kills his > dogs, > > > we are offended. Are we offended for the animal? If so, why > not be > > > offended at killing other dogs or other animals, which happends > all > > > the time? > > > > > > If humans thought of dogs as special, we would abhor the killing > of > > > any dog, as we would the killing of any human, but we don't. > Our > > > reactions seem to be based upon our view of the killing, not the > > > animal's view of it. If our sympathy truly was with the animal, > we > > > would hate all killing of animals, hunting included. > > > > > > Yes that dove-tails into the argument of who possesses a soul. > Yes > > > it dove-tails into the abortion argument, since a fetus is a > > > vertebrate mammal in the animal kingdom, and in some people's a > > > opinion, more important than a dog. > > > > > > I don't see how pointing out the hypocrisy makes the column > about > > > me. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" > <asburycouple@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Because an article about real issues with a reasonable point > of > > > view > > > > will spark a debate but not make him the center of attention. > By > > > > taking such an extreme and ridiculous argument as his Vick > > > article - > > > > or for that matter insert most of his POV's - Tom himself > becomes > > > > the focal point and the argument becomes about him rather than > > > about > > > > the issue. That's just how he likes it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 9/2/2007 11:54:23 A.M. Eastern Daylight > > > Time, > > > > > asburycouple@ writes: > > > > > > > > > > Honestly I don't even thing Tommy believes half of > > > > > what he writes here or in the TCN. I think he just gets > off on > > > > > saying things he knows will piss people off. > > > > > > > > > > But why not put that column to more responsible use, > especially > > > > for AP. > > > > > Weeks ago, he was so hot to join the surveillance system > > > > bandwagon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of > the > > > all- > > > > new AOL at > > > > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
