In a message dated 9/10/2007 1:42:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think the one issue that has some in a knot is thefact that the men in the shelter are released every day into thepublic streets. What they must understand is that the Federal Courtmade it illegal to keep them in for 24 hours a day. They are not to be in prisoned in the shelter. They are to be released every day in an attempt to secure work independent of the shelter and move on with their lives. That knot is that "knot of vipers," that "brood of vipers," as John the Baptist refereed to the "plagues among the Pharisees." An earlier version of JSRM stated that when an individual leaves the mission, "Christ will be their counselor." Here's why there are no credentials listed at either MSM's or JSRM's sites (from Christ Based Counseling link below): "We recognize that psychology is well assimilated into the fiber of mainline ministries nationwide. This does NOT indicate that it is acceptable to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. A number of these organizations even refer to their ministries as the generic "Christian-based" distancing themselves from Christian counseling, which is all but destroyed by the imposition of psychological practices during the last 25 years. However, a request for their standards or Christian-based licensing will be met with hostility. They readily display their state licensing. The casual consumer does not realize that state licensing does NOT consider faith related standards, practices, strategies or therapies. Therefore, these ministries and associations are "in fact" highly unethical and representing the highest order of pretense. The same may even be true for those who graduated from highly prestigious Christian colleges. Again, their programs are often so permeated by the psycho-socio practices they have difficulty displaying any Christian-based standards, which demonstrate the faith related nature of their counseling practices.
"No matter how well received these personalities, schools, seminaries, associations and ministries may be they cannot distance themselves from the fact that the psycho-socio therapies find their foundation in atheism." From: http://www.christbasedcounseling.org/cbcinitiative.htm <http://www.christbasedcounseling.org/cbcinitiative.htm> So studying, long and hard for years, for an LCSW, LPC, CSW, CAD, DAC et al., is pretense and unethical! =============================================================== But see how easy it is to get "credentials" to run a mission. Bishop Edward McQuaid's foray into the "credentials circuit" turned into an Odyssey. Click here: M.A. Required, Ph.D. Preferred: <http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:iTljCTxXmr4J:www.credentialwatch.o\ rg/reports/mcquaid.shtml+Diploma+mills+counseling+therapy+health+religio\ n+minister+clergy+church+fbi+irs+drug+abuse+clinic+ministry+salvation+pa\ stor+priest+justice+revenue+%22disciples+of+truth%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&\ gl=us> We've seen the knot of vipers here before. JSRM -- Not a Benefit to Asbury Park. More like a curse!